Erreurs de traduction par IA

RBoy · Mai 8, 2026, 1:01

J’ai remarqué plusieurs de ces erreurs dans les journaux :

Message (2 copies signalées)

DiscourseAi::Translation: Échec de la traduction du message 120 en da : Échec de la validation : Raw ne peut pas être vide, Cooked ne peut pas être vide

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Falco · Mai 8, 2026, 1:08

Ensuite, vous devez vérifier le contenu du message 120 (il suffit de naviguer vers /p/120), puis de consulter la réponse du modèle de langage lorsqu’il a tenté de le traduire (vérifiez la table ai_api_audit_logs).

RBoy · Mai 8, 2026, 1:17

Lorsque j’examine les journaux d’audit en utilisant cette requête

SELECT 
  feature_name,
  created_at,
  post_id,
  response_tokens
FROM 
  ai_api_audit_logs
WHERE 
  post_id IS NOT NULL
  AND created_at > :start_date
  AND (response_tokens IS NULL OR response_tokens != 1)
ORDER BY 
  created_at DESC

Il n’y a rien dans les résultats pour ce post autour du horodatage affiché dans les journaux.
Y a-t-il autre chose que je devrais examiner ?

Falco · Mai 8, 2026, 1:19

Oui, vous supprimez la clause entière response_tokens de la clause WHERE.

RBoy · Mai 8, 2026, 5:03

D’accord, d’abord j’ai fait une faute de frappe plus tôt, ce n’est pas un PM. J’ai remarqué que vous aviez indiqué d’utiliser /p/120 et que j’avais utilisé /t/120.

/p/120 pointe vers https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1

Ensuite, j’ai exécuté la requête mise à jour sur la table, mais je ne vois aucune entrée correspondant au horodatage des journaux → Jeu 23h25

Je ne vois que ces entrées dans la table, qui sont les plus proches du horodatage :

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-07T23:26:15.471Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5897/1`	2423
translation	2026-05-07T23:11:23.504Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5896/2`	425

Aucun des identifiants de publication ci-dessus ne correspond à l’identifiant de publication figurant dans le journal d’erreur.

La seule fois où je vois une référence à cet identifiant de publication, c’est beaucoup plus tard dans les journaux

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-08T03:10:18.214Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1`	0

Falco · Mai 8, 2026, 5:35

Les jetons de réponse sont inutiles pour le débogage ; vous devez afficher la réponse brute.

RBoy · Mai 8, 2026, 7:25

Le problème, c’est que je ne vois aucune réponse avec le même horodatage que le journal et l’identifiant du post.

La prochaine extraction de données que je vois pour cet identifiant de post est environ une heure plus tard et elle contient ceci :

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data: {"error":{"message":"Échec de la génération du JSON. Veuillez ajuster votre invite. Consultez 'failed_generation' pour plus de détails.","type":"invalid_request_error","code":"json_validate_failed","failed_generation":"max completion tokens reached before generating a valid document","status_code":400}}

Falco · Mai 8, 2026, 7:53

Les jetons de raisonnement consomment tous les jetons disponibles dans la limite de complétion max_tokens. Une autre raison pour laquelle nous n’utilisons pas le raisonnement pour les traductions.

Nous avions un paramètre de site pour gérer cela

Mais nous l’avons supprimé dans

github.com/discourse/discourse

DEV: Update prompts for translations (#38965)

main ← prompt-updates

merged 03:30PM - 30 Mar 26 UTC

nattsw

+36 -80

This PR updates the system prompts for the post and topic title translators to p…roduce more natural, idiomatic output. The previous prompts optimised for accuracy, which led to translations that were technically correct but read like machine translation being overly literal, sometimes the wrong register, and occasionally picking the wrong sense of an ambiguous word.

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Error when translate post by ai （Job exception: undefined method `strip' for an instance of DiscourseAi::Completions::StructuredOutput Support ai , dynaloc	6	147	Décembre 8, 2025
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Erreurs de traduction par IA

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