Ошибки переводов AI

RBoy · 08.Май.2026 13:01:09

Заметил в логах множество таких записей:

Сообщение (2 сообщения в отчете)

DiscourseAi::Translation: Не удалось перевести пост 120 на da: Ошибка валидации: Raw не может быть пустым, Cooked не может быть пустым

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Falco · 08.Май.2026 13:08:39

Тогда вам нужно проверить, что содержится в посте 120 (просто перейдите по адресу /p/120), а затем посмотреть, каким был ответ LLM при попытке его перевода (проверьте таблицу ai_api_audit_logs).

RBoy · 08.Май.2026 13:17:21

Когда я просматриваю журналы аудита с помощью этого запроса

SELECT 
  feature_name,
  created_at,
  post_id,
  response_tokens
FROM 
  ai_api_audit_logs
WHERE 
  post_id IS NOT NULL
  AND created_at > :start_date
  AND (response_tokens IS NULL OR response_tokens != 1)
ORDER BY 
  created_at DESC

В результатах для этого поста ничего нет в указанную дату/время.
Что ещё мне стоит проверить?

Falco · 08.Май.2026 13:19:31

Да, удалите всё предложение response_tokens из условия WHERE.

RBoy · 08.Май.2026 17:03:21

Хорошо, сначала я допустил опечатку: это не PM. Я заметил, что вы указали использовать /p/120, а я использовал /t/120.

/p/120 ведёт на https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1.

Затем я выполнил обновлённый запрос к таблице, но не нашёл ни одной записи с временной меткой из логов — Чт 23:25.

В таблице я вижу только эти записи, которые ближе всего к указанному времени:

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-07T23:26:15.471Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5897/1`	2423
translation	2026-05-07T23:11:23.504Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/5896/2`	425

Ни один из идентификаторов постов выше не совпадает с идентификатором поста в логе ошибок.

Единственный раз, когда я вижу ссылку на этот идентификатор поста, это значительно позже в логах:

feature_name	created_at	post	response_tokens
translation	2026-05-08T03:10:18.214Z	`https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/63/1`	0

Falco · 08.Май.2026 17:35:44

Токены ответа бесполезны для отладки, необходимо показать необработанный ответ.

RBoy · 08.Май.2026 19:25:54

Дело в том, что я не вижу ответа с тем же временным штампом, что и в логе, и с тем же ID поста.

Следующий дамп данных для этого ID поста я вижу примерно через час, и он содержит следующее:

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event: error
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Falco · 08.Май.2026 19:53:51

Токены рассуждения «съедают» все токены лимита завершения max_tokens. Это ещё одна причина, по которой мы не используем рассуждения для переводов.

У нас была настройка сайта для решения этой проблемы

Но мы убрали её ещё в

github.com/discourse/discourse

DEV: Update prompts for translations (#38965)

main ← prompt-updates

merged 03:30PM - 30 Mar 26 UTC

nattsw

+36 -80

This PR updates the system prompts for the post and topic title translators to p…roduce more natural, idiomatic output. The previous prompts optimised for accuracy, which led to translations that were technically correct but read like machine translation being overly literal, sometimes the wrong register, and occasionally picking the wrong sense of an ambiguous word.

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