Where source:meta.discourse.org would provide a similar level of context as internal quotes.
My primary use case is that I’m currently training my Staff to rely on flags instead of manual moderation, and wanted to show them this:
I copied/quoted that from the topic here on meta, and pasted it into my forum, not really thinking about what I was doing. It of course linked to a topic on my forum with the same id, which makes perfect sense, but isn’t what I want.
I could link to the post directly, which works nicely with the onebox, but I really just want to call out the relevant piece.
Aside from staff-training, I also run a few different sites that could benefit from occasionally sharing parts of conversations between them. As an added bonus, this would show users that there’s a larger Discourse world out there by bridging conversations between communities.
Yes that works, but that’s not what I’m describing. That’s a link to the entire post, I’m wondering about the possibility of linking to a quote:
The idea is to load a quote like the one above, so that readers can see a specific part of an external post instead of a link to the full thing, but also with a link back to the source.
It would be quicker than onebox to get specific info to readers, while still letting them get all the context if they want it.
edit: update with example from the link you posted
If you’ve configured Certbot to use a directory other than /etc/letsencrypt, you should use that directory in the commands instead.
The reference post in its entirety would be too much info if I just wanted to quote the piece above, and would cause more friction for the user than is ideal. Focusing on the quote instead is more useful, but now it is somewhat orphaned. Quoting parts of posts between instances would be the best of both features.
All most users need to do is make sure your Certbot installation is up-to-date and test and configure automatic renewal for the updated version of Certbot. You can find instructions for how to do this at https://certbot.eff.org . You need Certbot version 0.28.0 or newer. You can check which version you have installed by running Certbot with the --version flag.
The reason oneboxing exists is you can’t assume what other servers are running in terms of version or platform. Not to mention that just because a site is running a particular platform today, that the same will be true tomorrow.
Create a dependency on Discourse now and if anyone ever does move away any platform-specific embedding would break. It’s one of the reasons oneboxing is so damn useful.
@codinghorror that does work yeah, but it doesn’t have the same slickness as the regular copy/quote feature. Regardless, this isn’t a common enough of a case to be bothersome, but it does have me curious about what is possible.
@Stephen I hear ya, that does make sense. Though, would it not be within Discourse’s control to send information about itself to another Discourse instance if it recognized the request? There’s no assumption if a response says: “Hey, I’m a Discourse site too! Here’s the author name and post url to render alongside that quote you requested.”.
That’s a good point though about platform-specific embeds and migration issues.
Perhaps I’m envisioning something too grand here, but a Discourse instance recognizing its siblings across the web seems so cool as a concept, as does users being able to directly quote/converse with each other across communities.
Il y a une décennie, il y a eu une discussion similaire, mais elle n’a pas abouti. Maintenant, nous avons un peu plus d’expérience et d’outils…
Imaginez que vous êtes l’équipe Discourse et que vous utilisez une instance Discourse publique et une instance privée. Habituellement, vous copieriez une citation de l’instance publique dans l’instance privée, mais vous perdriez alors le contexte : au lieu de pouvoir développer la citation, ou de cliquer pour aller à l’original, vous devriez également mentionner l’URL source. Maintenant, si votre lecteur est authentifié et que l’URL source fait partie de la citation, vous pouvez passer de manière transparente d’une instance à l’autre.
Je recommanderais un paramètre de site qui bascule entre le passage ou non du domaine dans la citation copiée. J’ai un cas d’utilisation dans l’éducation où je ne voudrais pas que le copier-coller révèle le domaine d’où il provient
Il y a aussi eu Include the forum's URL in quotes en 2023, et je n’étais pas au courant des deux autres sujets lorsque j’ai posté cette demande de fonctionnalité
Je ne serais pas surpris si le sujet avait été abordé dans d’autres sujets.
Si nous ajoutions le domaine lors de la copie via Copier la citation, je pense que nous pourrions facilement le supprimer lors du collage dans l’éditeur sur le même site, de sorte que l’expérience perçue serait la même dans ce cas. Il ne serait pas supprimé sur une autre instance ou s’il était collé ailleurs.
Mon cas est plus pratique : lorsque j’utilise Copier la citation, il conserve le code source LaTeX brut, ce dont j’ai besoin lorsque je réutilise des mathématiques ailleurs. Si je surligne et copie simplement, j’obtiens généralement seulement le rendu MathJax, pas la source. Le problème est que Copier la citation ajoute également la ligne d’attribution avec le domaine, ce que je ne veux pas. Le besoin ici est donc : conserver le comportement de préservation du LaTeX, mais sans le lien ajouté automatiquement.
