Quão difícil seria tornar a interface do Discourse mais parecida com a do Flarum?

[subtenko]

Scale of 1-10 how difficult would it be? Hopefully this question doesn’t peeve anyone but Im torn between the two. Flarum has a really clean interface:

1. Topic list is centered with no lines in between, yet its still easy to read.
2. Search bar is all in the same sticky header and not a ‘nook’
3. Category markers look better, not just a 4x4 square.

Hmm… thats about it I think… Does this make sense? Sorry if this is posted to the wrong section.

Sidenote info: Im currently testing out both software even though having a hard time putting discourse on the same server vs my other 1 click install server. At least I have this working because for some reason I get a blank page when finalizing the flarum install. Really if Discourse had the same Flarum UI and features discourse currently has it be a much easier pick

[notriddle (Michael Howell)]

@subtenko

Search bar is all in the same sticky header and not a ‘nook’

Pavilion Header Search Theme Component

This theme component is no longer maintained. See below for more information Alternatives include Header Search and Search Banner [55%20AM] Repository: GitHub - paviliondev/discourse-header-search-theme Preview on Theme Creator This is a re-packaging of the Header Search Plugin so it can be used as a theme. The functionality is the same as the plugin. See further: https://meta.discourse.org/t/moving-the-discourse-search-box-and-making-it-functional-how/15043/16?u=angus

[angus (Angus McLeod)]

The answer is that it would be easy.

Discourse has a Theming system (see themes tag) that makes the kind of changes you’re talking about just a matter of adding the right CSS rules.

You can add CSS either directly in the “Site Customisations” Admin Panel UI, or on your local machine in your editor of choice via the CLI, with the ability to preview changes instantly on your site.

If you’re not a coder, you can hire one in the marketplace.

As has already been mentioned, you can use my header search theme component for the header search part of your list.

[alehandrof (Alex Armstrong)]

I like the Flarum homepage as shown in the second screenshot! Not sure how doable that would be with CSS given that the categories in Discourse are a dropdown. But I like the idea of having the categories as permanent sidebar on the left hand side (while browsing topics).

[BlackKnob]

It’s a nice looking design, but only when you are at the top of the page. Then the color banner disappears and you are left with just the white main header.
If you want to have a color header, then the topic banner won’t look as sexy. (would look like having two headers).
Also, the categories bullet list in Flarum doesn’t show descriptions. Did you try Material Design Stock Theme for Discourse?

[notriddle (Michael Howell)]

@alehandrof

I like the Flarum homepage as shown in the second screenshot! Not sure how doable that would be with CSS given that the categories in Discourse are a dropdown.

It could be done with a theme component, though it would require some javascript.

[erlend_sh (Erlend Sogge Heggen)]

I just remembered there’s some prior art on this by @bts here:

Do you have original customisations?

Here’s our forum!: We’re using a pretty vanilla install, i.e. not really any plugins beyond the WP Discourse plugin for SSO with our Wordpress site. But we’ve done some fairly extensive frontend / design tweaks. Aside from color scheme and some UI adjustments and simplifications I think the most noticeable thing we did is add a visual header banner for each category. We liked how this looked on some other sites we came across e.g. Flarum and found it nice to have extra visual distinction for…

Once there’s a published theme available for this it’d be great if the two of you could compare notes and ideally end up with a single codebase.

[bts (Brendan Schlagel)]

Obrigado @erlend_sh, ótima observação! Ainda não tinha visto este tópico. Sim, passamos algum tempo no ano passado exatamente com isso, tentando chegar a algo próximo dos cabeçalhos no estilo Flarum. É assim que fica no nosso site:

E aqui está o resumo do HTML / CSS que desenvolvemos para isso—

CSS:
(Isso está tudo em “common” — além disso, há também alguns pequenos ajustes de margem/padding para desktop vs. mobile que não incluí abaixo.)

/* GERAL */

body {
    overflow-x: hidden;
}

.custom-cat-header {
    display: block;
    margin-left: -9999px!important;
    padding-left: 9999px!important;
    margin-right: -9999px!important;
    padding-right: 9999px!important;
    text-align: center;
    margin-top: -18px;
}

.custom-cat-header p {
    color: #dddddd;
}

.custom-cat-header h1 {
    display: inline-block;
    margin-top: 20px;
    color: #dddddd;
    background-color: #222222;
    border-radius: 5px;
    width: inherit;
}

/* TODAS AS CATEGORIAS */
.custom-cat-header-all-categories {display: none;}
body.navigation-categories .custom-cat-header-all-categories, body.navigation-topics .custom-cat-header-all-categories {
    display: block; 
    background-color: #b1880b;
}
.custom-cat-header-all-categories h1 {color: #d4a411;}

/* TÉCNICA DE EXECUÇÃO */
.custom-cat-header-playing-technique {display: none;}
body.category-playing-technique .custom-cat-header-playing-technique {
    display: block; 
    background-color: #9c2116;
}
.custom-cat-header-playing-technique h1 {color: #d62e1f;}
body.category-playing-technique .custom-cat-header-all-categories {display: none;}

/* repita para todas as outras categorias! */

HTML (na seção “Após o Cabeçalho”):

<!-- TODAS AS CATEGORIAS -->
<div class="custom-cat-header custom-cat-header-all-categories">
    <a href="https://forum.troygrady.com/"><h1>Todas as Categorias</h1></a>
    <p>Bem-vindo ao Fórum Cracking the Code!</p>
</div>

<!-- TÉCNICA DE EXECUÇÃO -->
<div class="custom-cat-header custom-cat-header-playing-technique">
    <a href="https://forum.troygrady.com/c/playing-technique"><h1>Técnica de Execução</h1></a>
    <p>Pickslanting, chunking, fretting, mecânica de movimento — faça suas perguntas técnicas aqui.</p>
</div>

<!-- repita para todas as outras categorias! -->

Isso está visualmente muito polido… mas também muito personalizado / hacky, com muitas edições manuais repetitivas. Fácil o suficiente para nossas ~dezenas de categorias, mas para maior flexibilidade, vejo isso como algo legal como um plugin simples que:

• pegaria e inseriria automaticamente as descrições das categorias
• lidaria automaticamente com os cálculos de cores (as nossas são semelhantes às cores das categorias, mas fizemos manualmente a cor de fundo do cabeçalho um pouco mais escura e a cor do texto do “pílula” h1 um pouco mais clara para melhor contraste/legibilidade).

Não tenho experiência em criar plugins. Mas por enquanto, um componente de tema combinando o que @lll e eu desenvolvemos parece ser um bom próximo passo!

[subtenko]

Hey @lll I didnt see your reply before, and I didn’t test yours out before seeing bts’s version but I like that you did Javascript, leads to more connection when editing/change styles. It would be awesome if this was a theme component, idk how to do that yet but here’s what I did with bts’ code:

<!-- After Header section -->

<!-- PLAYING TECHNIQUE -->
<div class="custom-cat-header custom-cat-header-nites-cinema">
    <a href="https://forum.troygrady.com/c/playing-technique"><h1>Playing Technique</h1></a>
    <p>Pickslanting, chunking, fretting, motion mechanics — ask your technical questions here.</p>
    <img src="https://d11a6trkgmumsb.cloudfront.net/original/3X/c/b/cb4bec8901221d4a646e45e1fa03db3a65e17f59.png">
</div>

I added that img src things as a random idea I had after I was done with doing the below edit. Obviously you gotta make another style rule to make sure the img/icon fits in the header (I did it via inspect elements), the main thing I was going for:

/* In common CSS */

/* PLAYING TECHNIQUE */
.custom-cat-header-nites-cinema {display: none;}
body.category-nites-cinema  .custom-cat-header-nites-cinema {
    display: block; 
    background: url('http://wallpaperscraft.com/image/starry_sky_tree_milky_way_radiance_120245_602x339.jpg') 0px -300px fixed no-repeat;}
.custom-cat-header-playing-technique h1 {color: #d62e1f;}
body.category-playing-technique .custom-cat-header-all-categories {display: none;}

/* repeat for all other categories! */

This is what I did on my old forum version of bbpress which was a edit of a clone to make it look like flarum, Reference: https://github.com/Sceko/bbFlarum

but I added in background image and fixed position to make it look cool

The result:

What can be done with a theme component if you add in my idea:

1. javascript to pull in icon banner (if people like that) from category image or wherever
2. javascript pulling in background img sources vs manually entering
3. A commentedout CSS section for people who wanna do my edit, explaining what it does.

Thoughts? Again, thanks for the input both of you, and everyone in this topic

[McBlu (Blu McCormick)]

I am definitely interested in implementing this once it gets sorted. Thumbs up, guys.

[subtenko]

So theres gonna be a bit of redundancy if you choose to have category image and description turned on, unless you wanna have different stuff in the header or just a background. Just gonna have to decide and finagle with the theme because I dont think category image and description is a themeable thing, its a build it setting for discourse.

Still awesome to have these options. All im gonna have is 2 main themes for my forums. Sometimes i get in an indecisive/perfectionist loop

[subtenko]

Yea the example you posted and the one I edited, it shows up on 2 of those locations (for category banner)

Off the top of your head is there a way to just show it on one of those pages (ie. Only on topic pages?[ The actual posts inside the category] ) vss CSS? If not do you think JavaScript could do it?

Well my edit I was gonna post is this: (For disabling the category description and logo only in the category page and nowhere else)

.category-heading {
clear: both;
display: none;
}

Then @awesomerobot comes along and totally 1ups me,lol. Yea dude that looks way better than the manual edits I was gonna do

[awesomerobot (Kris)]

I put together a rough theme component for this so you don’t have to create a bunch of redundant markup to show/hide… This will pull the appropriate category name, description, and background/text colors when you’re on a category list page.

My JS is hacked up from a few different posts on Meta, so definitely please improve it if you can.

Put this in common/header

<script type="text/discourse-plugin" version="0.8">
    const container = Discourse.__container__;    
    const { h } = require('virtual-dom');
   
    api.createWidget('category-header-widget', {
        tagName: 'span', 
        html(attrs, state) {
        
        const path = window.location.pathname;
        let category;
          
        const controller = container.lookup('controller:navigation/category');
        category = controller.get("category");
        
        if(/^\/c\//.test(path)) {
            $("body").addClass("category-header");            
            return h('div.category-title-header', {
                "attributes" : {
                    "style" : "background-color: #" + category.color + "; color: #" + category.text_color + ";"
                }

            }, h('div.category-title-contents', [
                    h('h1', category.name),   
                    h('p', category.description_text)          
                ])
            );
            } else {
                $("body").removeClass("category-header");
            }   
        }      
    }),

    api.decorateWidget('category-header-widget:after', helper => {
        helper.widget.appEvents.on('page:changed', () => {
            helper.widget.scheduleRerender();
        });
    });

</script> 
  
<script type='text/x-handlebars' data-template-name='/connectors/below-site-header/category-header-widget'>
    {{mount-widget widget="category-header-widget"}}
</script>

This is common/CSS

.category-title-header {
  padding-top: 60px;
  display: flex;
  text-align: center;
  width: 100%;
  justify-content: center;
  .category-title-contents {
    max-width: 500px;
    padding: 40px 0;
  }
}
.category-header {
 #main-outlet {
     padding-top: 20px;
 }
}

You can also target specific category headers with additional custom CSS by using this structure:

body.category-example {
    .category-title-header {
        background: url(example.jpg);
    }
}

With some time this could definitely be improved to support tags & topic titles!

Update: Made some refinements and put this in a repo as a theme component

Category Banners

Summary Category Banners uses existing category details to create banners for your category pages. It uses the category name, description, and color to generate a banner at the top of the relevant category pages (for tags check out Discourse Tag Banners). Preview Preview on theme-creator.discourse.org Repository Link https://github.com/discourse/discourse-category-banners New to Discourse Themes? Beginner’s guide to using…

[BlackKnob]

This already works great @awesomerobot!
Could you please add an “All Categories” banner as well?

[robotnjik]

Nice work! Anyone having this live on their Discourse? I would like to check it out how looks like…

[Francois_Douville (François Douville)]

I add this in my forum and it’s perfect! A little thing is that it takes only the first lines of the description of the categories and don’t show links.

This is my text with links :

We only see the first two lines (and without links)

[oshyan (Oshyan Greene)]

Queria que houvesse mais discussão aqui sobre alguns dos outros aspectos potencialmente agradáveis do Flarum. O Flarum finalmente atingiu a versão 1.0. E, embora eu continue a achar que o Discourse é superior na maioria dos aspectos, eu também gosto de algumas coisas no design/interface do Flarum. Então, espero que, se outros também sentirem falta de uma estética semelhante à do Flarum, eles também se manifestem aqui e, quem sabe, possamos finalmente criar um tema (eu, infelizmente, não tenho as habilidades, mas posso contribuir financeiramente com um esforço coletivo para isso, se houver interesse).

Por enquanto, para começar a abordar coisas além do cabeçalho, acredito que a barra lateral pode ser replicada em grande parte com:

Sidebar with categories

This plugin shows categories on the page sidebar on all discovery list pages (latest, new, unread but not on the single topic page, and categories). Screenshot: [screenshot1] Blocks can be ordered in the plugin settings. Speaking of which, there are these settings under Admin > Settings > Plugins: sidebar enable enables the display of the sidebar sidebar custom content where you can enter arbitrary HTML content to show on the sidebar [screenshot2] Repository: GitHub - evgip/discourse-si…

Embora não suporte Tags. Alternativamente, esta:

Discourse Sidebar Blocks

This plugin is now deprecated. Please use the Right Sidebar Blocks theme component instead. This plugin shows a list of blocks as a sidebar on all discovery list pages (latest, new, unread, categories but not on the single topic page). The available blocks at this point (Oct. 12 2016) are the following: multiple category posts (6 items max per category) latest replies (5 items) a custom html block Blocks can be ordered in the plugin settings. Speaking of which, there are these se…

O problema é que ambos parecem precisar de alguma atualização/manutenção ou refatoração.

Uma funcionalidade ou abordagem de design que parece totalmente ausente no Discourse, pelo que sei, é uma área de “resposta” mais óbvia, semelhante a uma caixa de texto, que acho uma alternativa agradável ao botão “Responder”:

Note que isso é mais do que apenas uma abordagem de resposta possivelmente “mais fácil” ou com aparência mais “sem atrito”. A adição da imagem do avatar já presente é, na verdade, um detalhe interessante que, pessoalmente, acho que incentiva a interação, pois faz você sentir, de forma sutil, que já está envolvido.

Na verdade, acho que essa é provavelmente uma ideia boa o suficiente para merecer uma solicitação de recurso própria…

[merefield (Robert)]

Considere também: Layouts Plugin

[oshyan (Oshyan Greene)]

Ah, sim, bom ponto! Vou testar o mais rápido possível.

[codinghorror (Jeff Atwood)]

Certo; o fato de responder ser uma ação distinta que você precisa acionar, em vez de uma caixa de entrada pré-preenchida, é um elemento de design altamente intencional desde os primeiros dias do Discourse. Queremos incentivar a leitura, não a resposta imediata porque “alguém está errado na internet”. Acredito que muitos dos problemas atuais na internet podem ser rastreados até muitas pessoas respondendo com muita rapidez, sem refletir o suficiente.

A introdução do recurso de chat também deve aliviar a pressão sobre o impulso de “preciso responder imediatamente com a primeira emoção que vem à mente” e direcioná-lo de forma mais adequada.

Se você quer uma barra lateral, isso é um recurso do Teams.