Improved UX for external quotes


(Erlend Sogge Heggen) #1

Currently when I’m quoting a post from a different topic, it looks nearly identical to quotes from within the same topic:

I think external quotes should be more similar to the embed you get from a single-line topic link, more like this:

I simply added an “in” after the post author and then include the topic title.

(slightly confusing example since the top-most quote is technically also an external one, but manually added. That was mere coincidence so please disregard it)

Quotes from topics in secure categories
(Sam Saffron) #2

Yeah, this was raised in smart things forum as well, also the click target is tiny now

(Jeff Atwood) #3

Is this a bug? The arrow should point up if the quote is from the same topic.

(Jeff Atwood) #4

Here is a quote from this topic. Note the arrow at upper right.

Here is a quote from a different topic. Note the arrow at upper right.

(Jeff Atwood) #5

Nope @erlend_sh this looks correct to me. Up arrow meaning “quote is from above in the same topic” right arrow meaning “quote is from other topic”.

(Erlend Sogge Heggen) #6

Okay, let me rephrase: They look nearly identical. The arrow is a fine additional clue, but I want to add the topic title as a much clearer callout that says “This quote is from a different topic”.

(Jeff Atwood) #7

Does this (and by this I mean selective quoting of posts in other topics) really happen enough for it to matter?

Subtle cues might be fine for rare actions.

(Sam Saffron) #8


The complaint is that there is only one tiny arrow to click, when stuff is in another topic repeating the title and making linkable seems rather sane

(Erlend Sogge Heggen) #9

Another argument in favour: It makes a lot of sense to show context (topic title) when quoting from an external topic.

(Jeff Atwood) #10

Maybe, but showing category is a bit much. Should we also show all the tags? I think the topic title should suffice, if we do anything at all here, @sam.

(Sam Saffron) #11

I agree that quoting off topic is not terribly common, however linking off topic by simply pasting a link is common enough.

The code path for linking off topic and quoting off topic is pretty much identical, in both case we use the same renderer:

[quote="codinghorror, post:3, topic:13999"]
Yeah there is still a lot of work to do in this area cc: @eviltrout 

I started patching this up here:

I do feel this is ripe for a review when we move to the new Markdown engine

  • Preview don’t work right cause of Zalgo API

  • The whole quote format is not robust enough to handle topic moves.

  • We do not support the ability to quote (or onebox) secure topics and get title expansions cause applying security is a nightmare. (do all the users looking at this topic have permission to see the other topic? very hard to answer)

  • This ?

(Jeff Atwood) #12

Sure, I like that, just the topic I can get behind. Good idea @erlend_sh.

(Jeff Atwood) #14