Mailgun 每月每发送1000封邮件收费1美元(前1000封免费)

:mega: This does not apply to or impact hosted Discourse customers. This applies to self-hosted customers who use Mailgun for their outgoing email.


2022.05.16 Pfaffman adds: I contacted support about people being confused and they sent:

I think that https://help.mailgun.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048661093-How-does-PAYG-billing-work- (linked in the quote above) is the description of the FLEX/PAYG model that low-volume self-hosters are looking for.

At least one use in India has reported that it’s impossible to pay Mailgun with an Indian credit card:

OP Continues below (End of @pfaffman’s changes)

Mailgun has been one of our recommended email providers for many years. Mailgun offers a plan called “Concept”, which includes 10,000 free emails per month, when you added a credit card on your account. As of March 1, 2020, this plan will be discontinued. Going forward, Mailgun will offer the Flex plan, a pay-as-you-go plan.

Based on current pricing, $0.80/1000 emails, sites that used Mailgun’s free plan can expect monthly costs of no more than $8/mo moving forward, provided they are under the 10k limit that existed historically.

The full email from Mailgun is below. Please note that Discourse is not affiliated with Mailgun in any way. Please direct any questions regarding this change, your Mailgun plan, pricing, etc. to the Mailgun team.

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Does that affect/apply-to hosted Discourse customers? Is there any context for this Topic?

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That is really a bummer. Are there any good alternatives that offer similar plans that you can recommend us?
Thanks for the heads up!

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It does not, no. This only affects self-hosted users who set up email.

The context is this has been the first provider listed on our recommended email list, so we know a lot of self-hosted sites use it (because everyone likes to pick the first thing on the list whether it’s the best or not).

Most providers have moved away from free plans. You can see other recommended options at discourse/docs/INSTALL-email.md at main · discourse/discourse · GitHub, some of whom still have free plans.

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Right. There are too many reasons that email can’t be free, I’m afraid. I always thought that 10K free per month seemed too good to be true.

As someone who sets up several self-hosted sites per month, I’m going to keep recommending Mailgun. I’ve been happy with their service and they are easy to set up (plus it’s what I’ve scripted :wink:). While it is $8/month if you send 10,000 emails per month, most small sites will send much less mail than that. 1000 emails (100 users getting 2.5 emails per week) will cost you 80 cents, which still seems like a pretty good deal to me.

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I’ve just moved our forum to using Amazon SES and am quite happy with it. AWS is a complex beast and it isn’t the simplest provider, but it wasn’t too hard to change over to their SMTP servers. Note that you will need to raise a support ticket with them in order to be moved out of their email sandbox, so if anyone else plans to move to SES, you should set up a test Discourse instance first to check your SMTP settings are working, and also don’t leave it to the last moment because it could take a day or two for them to respond to your support ticket.

Btw, the test email says this at the bottom, which is no longer really true:

(The easy way is to create a free account on SendGrid, SparkPost, Mailgun or Mailjet, which have generous free mailing plans and will be fine for small communities. You’ll still need to set up the SPF and DKIM records in your DNS, though!)

While these companies have free trial periods, and their general fees are quite cheap, they’re not free for small communities after the trials run out.

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how about sendinblue.com? it still has a free plan of 300 email/day. has anyone used it so far?

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I use Sendinblue for a large non-Discourse project and they’re a solid service.

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Well, Mailgun is back to what’s effectively a free plan, but only up to 1250 messages/month. From an email I received from them Thursday:

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截至 2022 年 5 月 8 日,Mailgun 每月提供 1k 免费邮件,之后(可能)每发送 1k 邮件收费 1 美元。
而 SendinBlue 每月提供 9k 邮件(每日 300 封),Mailet 每日免费 200 封(每月 6k 封),但两者都会在邮件上盖上自己的标志。

如果您的应用程序/网站托管在 AWS 上,Amazon 的 AWS 每月免费发送 62000 封电子邮件,否则每发送或接收 1k 电子邮件仅收费 0.1 美元(与其他人相比仍然非常便宜)。虽然我认为它会更复杂,但服务非常可靠。

所以,我认为 Mailgun 不再比 AWS 更好,特别是对于印度信用卡持有人而言。

Mailgun 对我来说最大的障碍是,我的印度信用卡不允许我通过 OTP 向任何供应商付款。而 Mailgun 的支付网关既不允许我通过启用 OTP 的信用卡付款,也不允许我通过其他方式付款。最终,我的信用卡公司没有积极回应,Mailgun 也没有提供其他(如 PayPal 等)付款方式。

而且他们已经禁用了我的账户,这对于不到 2 美元的少量付款来说非常糟糕。

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感谢更新!每月 1k 对于一些个人项目来说绰绰有余。非常感谢!

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等一下,@Bathinda,这个链接在哪里?因为我在网站或博客上找不到任何关于每月免费1000封邮件的说明。你能提供一个具体的来源链接吗?

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我认为有一段时间,如果您的月总额低于一美元,他们就不会向您收费,但现在他们会结转付款,因此不再免费。自该主题开始以来的两年里,他们已经改变了几次。

如果您阅读了他们的定价,您可能就明白了。

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我也没看到每月免费的 1000 封电子邮件。
我一直在使用他们的试用计划已有 2 年;它花费 1 美元发送 1000 封电子邮件,前 3 个月有 5000 封免费电子邮件。

我相信他们最近将“flex”计划重命名为“trial” :thinking:
不过有一件事让我有点困扰:Sign Up Free | Mailgun

试用期结束后,您将被转移到 Foundation 50k,但您可以随时选择按需付费或其他您选择的套餐。

这是否意味着他们会自动将我们转移到他们的 Foundation 50k 套餐(每月 35 美元),还是让我们选择“按需付费”(1000 封电子邮件 1 美元)? :thinking:

我最近在二月份为我不是管理员的论坛注册了一个新的 Mailgun 试用计划账户,我需要注意这一点。


我相信他们最近将“flex”计划重命名为“trial” :thinking:

我引用我自己。我一直在查看我最近注册的新账户,在账户设置中它显示:“Plan: Flex Trial”:
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当前套餐:

但我一定会密切关注它。我不想让套餐自动设置为每月 35 美元。

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关于1美元最低费用的信息可以在他们的帮助中心找到,其中明确说明发送计数不会跨月累积。

我认为这就是上面文章中提到的“Foundation Trial”,我怀疑“Flex Trial”是你目前使用的某个旧套餐。如果你发现它想把你转到每月35美元的Foundation套餐,你可以 肯定 probably 切换到Flex,免费额度高达1000封/月,第1001封邮件收费1美元。

这有点隐藏在晦涩难懂的地方,很自然。点击你截图中的升级按钮,然后在右侧找到“查看降级选项以获得更低数量”,点击它将显示Flex / 按量付费计划。

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谢谢!也许我们可以修改这个主题的标题,以反映 Mailgun 的产品。也许

Mailgun 每月提供 1000 封电子邮件 / 1 美元

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我不太可能是使用旧套餐,因为新账户创建于 2022 年 3 月 8 日。
我没有降级选项:

但如果当前套餐会自动切换到一个我绝对不需要的、贵得多的套餐,那就太奇怪了。Mailgun 不是那种可疑公司,对吧?

与我 2020 年开通的“flex”账户相比:

请注意,当前套餐是“Flex”。

所以我的猜测是,“Flex Trial”会在每月 5000 封免费邮件的前三个月结束后自动切换到“Flex”……但他们的措辞似乎是这个意思。 :man_shrugging:

也许我应该联系他们以获得答复,消除疑虑。 :smile:


编辑:在我的 flex 套餐中,如果我点击“查看降级选项以获得更低用量”,会出现以下情况:

:thinking: :face_with_raised_eyebrow::grey_question:

如果我点击“定价详情”:

\u003e | 超额 | |
\u003e | - | - |
\u003e | 接下来的 1,001 到 1,001 条 | $1.00/条 |

呃?我猜这是一个错别字……


另外,我每月发送大约 7000-8000 封邮件,我的账单也反映了这一点:

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不,它的措辞很奇怪,但加起来是合理的。

当你达到 1001 条消息的阈值时,他们会以每条消息额外 0.001 美元的价格收取前 1000 条消息的费用。他们将其计入第 1001 条消息,所以严格来说,前 1000 条消息仍然是免费的。

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那么,这个主题的正确修订标题将是:

Mailgun 每月发送 1,000 封电子邮件收费 1 美元(前 1,000 封免费)

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