Make members of a group watch a category by default


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #17

Thanks @sam that’s what I came here to find out.

And, to make my post here actually relevant, I’ll point out that I didn’t know that my post here: was basically a duplicate of this idea/request.


(Maya Lesh) #18

Thanks! Very helpful! Is this change made only to existing user? Or also for future users that join?


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #19

The changes I made are only going to effect new users.


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #20

This isn’t an option on hosted. Is adding group-watch defaults a part of

?


(Régis Hanol) #21

There you go :wink:

https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/bef80633b1b58189a732a3959d3a59da44aa55e9

:allthethings: OVERRIDE ALL THE THINGS


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #24

To have this option in the Group settings… so that we can add Watch status to members of a given group, it’s be nice.

Of course, this begs inheritance, permanence, and hierarchy of groups… but, this is what I need for two of my four discourse.


Confirming - it's OK to set default watch for categories a user can't see
Confirming - it's OK to set default watch for categories a user can't see
(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #25

I think that we can deal with this for the most part by setting defaults for everyone.

However, I’d still enjoy a setting on a Group that would apply Watch status to members as they were added. This would help in case someone had removed it from their profile before, and now that they’ve been added to the group, it’s best if they Watch the related category again.


(Kane York) #26

What happens when someone is removed from the group?

What happens if they were watching the category, then are added and removed?


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #27

If they are removed from a group, it will be just like I had set a group as default universally (no more notices for them, it wouldn’t show in their profile)

If they were watching and got removed & re-added, it would re-add the watch.

If the user had removed it… well, it’d be re-added. As an admin, I can let them know this is the case & give’m a heads-up.


(Kane York) #28

I don’t think you addressed the last one.

  1. Initial
    User is not in the group, not watching the category
  2. User watches the category
    User is not in the group, watching the category
  3. User is added to group
    User is in the group, watching the category
  4. User is removed from group
    ???

(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #29

4 - nothing happens, they stay “watching” the category.

says here that it’s just fine

This is assuming that the only reason they can see the category is because they were in the group. But regardless, removing doesn’t need to change the watch settings.


(Tobias Eigen) #30

This is exactly what I have been thinking as well - and it’s good to see this problem is solved for new users using the awesome new default user settings (thank you so much @zogstrip - merci beaucoup!)

… but this does not help with existing users. I think the ability to even just see who in a group is watching a certain category would move me along in ensuring that everyone who needs to be is watching it.

According to Sam…

If anyone is willing to create a howto for this I would be immensely grateful.


(Tobias Eigen) #31

I just noticed this discourse plugin:

It appears to be by @techAPJ - can you confirm this works and can you give any guidance on configuration? If so it solves my problems!


API call to watch categories and tags
Setting all users to watch a category
(Arpit Jalan) #32

Yep, it works!

You will need to fork the plugin and edit category and group name in plugin.rb file.


(Tobias Eigen) #33

wow - it works! thanks much.


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #34

Any chance we an get @techAPJ plugin rolled into discourse proper?


(Tobias Eigen) #35

This would be nice! I have been discouraging this generally on my site but there are frequent requests for private categories set up as mailing lists, for working groups that are working very closely together yet don’t log in frequently if at all. I’d rather set these up on discourse than on elsewhere on google groups etc. This can only work if I am able to force members of those groups to watch their category.

Making a code change and rebuilding each time I create a working group is not ideal but it’s reasonable.


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #36

The issue I’m facing here is that I need to make a new category which I need everyone subscribed to.

the recently added controls allow me to have it as a default for new users, but I’m still lacking a UI to say "everyone who’s in this group… I force this new Category in your watch list. (they can opt out later if they like)


(Tobias Eigen) #37

@techAPJ has solved just this problem with a plugin… See above. But it’s not configurable via the ui.


(Allen - Watchman Monitoring) #38

Thanks @tobiaseigen I want to suggest, not enforce that members of a given group watch a Category. In our use cases, it’s fine if they want to change to notify, or just unwatch if they don’t want all the emails.

This is solved for all new users in this bit of awesome by @zogstrip

However, it doesn’t help when there’s a new category, and I want to add it for existing users [without diving into the database]