القالب البسيط لسام

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:discourse2: | الملخص | يخلق Sam’s Simple Theme تصميمًا لقائمة المواضيع “بسيطًا”
| :eyeglasses: | معاينة | معاينة على منشئ مواضيع Discourse |
:hammer_and_wrench: | رابط المستودع | https://github.com/discourse/discourse-simple-theme
:open_book: |هل أنت جديد في مواضيع Discourse؟ | دليل المبتدئين لاستخدام مواضيع Discourse

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الميزات

لقد فكرت في هذا كثيرًا، وقررت المحاولة في تخصيص “بسيط” للصفحة الأمامية.

للاختيار من هذا الموضوع هنا على Meta، انتقل إلى ملفك الشخصي: https://meta.discourse.org/my/preferences وحدد الموضوع. (تذكر النقر على حفظ)

إليك قائمة بالأشياء التي قمت بها

  • إزالة العروض
  • إزالة النجمة
  • التخلص من صور الأفاتار واستخدام الأسماء بدلاً منها
  • تقليل أهمية الفئات
  • استخدام “لون تقليدي” أكثر لروابط المواضيع
  • استخدام الردود بدلاً من المنشورات

بعض الاستنتاجات من تجربتي:

  • أعتقد أن “الردود” أكثر طبيعية من اسم العمود من “المنشورات”، تقنيًا هي ببساطة “المنشورات - 1”، ومع ذلك فهي مفهوم أوضح بكثير للتعبير عنه وهي توجه الانتباه بشكل صحيح إلى المواضيع ذات المنشور الواحد فقط، لأن 0 هو رقم يلفت الانتباه.

  • على المدى الطويل، أعتقد أننا يجب أن نقدم نمط فئة “أقل ضجيجًا”، مجموعة الألوان الحالية تضع الفئات في حوض أكثر أهمية من المحتوى، التصنيف يبدو ثانويًا بالنسبة للعنوان بالنسبة لي.

  • أشعر بأن بحر الأفاتارات صاخب بعض الشيء، لا أنصح بتغييره على الفور ولكن أعتقد أنه يضيف الكثير من الزحام إلى صفحتنا الأمامية

  • بالنسبة لي، تعمل ألوان عناوين المواضيع التقليدية بشكل أفضل، أجد أنها تجذب الانتباه وتلفت الانتباه إلى العنوان بشكل لطيف

  • التصميم المبسط بالتأكيد أكثر “مللًا”، لكنني أجد العمل مع قوائم طويلة جدًا أسهل معه.

  • لست متأكدًا حقًا من الشريط الزبدي anymore، أعتقد أنه يسبب ضررًا أكثر من نفعه، الخط الخفيف يعمل بشكل أفضل بكثير في تصميمي المبسط

  • يجب إزالة النجمة، فهي تضيف ضجيجًا تقريبًا بدون أي مكسب

  • لن أدخل في جدال “منذ” مرة أخرى، ولكن بالنسبة للتصميم المبسط كنت أفضل “منذ ساعة” بدلاً من “1h”، الكلمات الإضافية كانت ستضيف وضوحًا وكان هناك مساحة فوق الاسم.

لا أعتقد أن “التصميم البسيط” أفضل من تصميمنا الحالي، أعتقد فقط أنه مختلف، وربما أكثر دراية لمستخدمي المنتديات الحاليين. إنه يجمع معلومات أقل.

من المثير للاهتمام أن “التصميم البسيط” لا يعمل على الإطلاق أوسع من 850 بكسل تقريبًا، مما يشير إلى الحاجة إلى نوع من العمود المساعد لتكميله (مع الأسئلة الشائعة أو صندوق الشات أو الإعلانات أو أي شيء آخر).

شيء رائع جدًا هو أن كل هذا يتم تحقيقه باستخدام قائمة التخصيص.

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Most liked messages in the topic

Great work @sam sounds good! I really like it

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I really like the changes. You went back to some sort of square one, but it helps to see it in a minimal way so things can be re-added but carefully considered.

My suggestions would be to color the [categories] with css as the same color/style for the drop down in the upper left so there’s visual cues with the associated category colors already established. For the names, maybe we could take a page from the OP meta bar and style it in a similar fashion so avatars still can be seen, since most use the avatar as a quicker visual cue than text. Like this:

That way there’s only two avatars to each topic list item. The OP and the last reply. Instead of what we have now which includes five avatars instead of just two. Not to mention the OP meta bar already has this information (who has participated in the discussion so far).

It’s good, but you’ve gone from being avatar heavy to being text heavy in kind of a nonsensical way. People process images (particularly of faces) much faster than names so I think most of all I’d recommend replacing the user names with images, would be less text to process.

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Yes, that is the gist of my reply, I am glad you agree. Same for category colors. I think those should come back as well for the same reason. Otherwise, I like @sam’s edits. It’s a nice re-start to add things as absolutely necessary.

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Here’s a quick try at adding avatars :baby:

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I would retain the usernames here, not entirely sure I want the avatar for creator, but regardless usernames should stay.

إعجابَين (2)

For what it’s worth, I used @sam’s screenshot and did a little shopping:

You can also style the OP meta the same way as another column next to that.

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I personally, I much prefer the avatars to usernames – if you are shooting for minimalism that is the way. Also, the word by does not need to be repeated over and over on the page, and can be removed.

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Taking off from @purldator’s mockup:

  • A little color for the categories via an fa-tag icon.
  • Remove OP name and timestamp from under the topic titles so they are easier to scan

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I like what you did with categories, but removing op is a step too far imo, also avatar seems a bit big to me.

To interject for some clarification, we are talking optional CSS etc. here and not changes to the Core?

To me a huge goal here is to make stuff more extensible, ultimately I do not think the “simple” design should replace what we have now. I do think we need to cull out stars and quieten down categories in our default view, but ultimately there are different types of consumers for Discourse with different needs.

As you simplify, you lose information, which may be desirable to some communities and not desirable for others.

If a community say moved from years on phpbb or what not to Discourse it may make sense for them to use a “simple” design. If a company has a need for an aux column it may make sense to use a “simple” design. Long term I hope the “wizard” you use to setup Discourse allows you to select between a few themes that cater to different groups.

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That’s my doing and mostly the shop’ was meant as a proof of concept, not so much a solid final draft. I’d be okay any which way the avatar’s size may become in the end.

Its a mish-mash topic now, which is kind of confusing to everyone.

The default core changes being discussed are:

Merge star and bookmark, do away with stars in topic list
Replies vs. Posts (also here)
Quieten down categories
Color choices

But ultimately there are 2 distinct views being discussed here,

  1. A minimal view
  2. Our default view

Thing is that it is not, colors are hardcoded into a style tag on an element, styling categories now is very hard and requires patching of discourse core.

Interesting, didn’t know that. Hmmn.

I do hope there might be a howto in the near future on ways to go about editing the theme’s hardcode ‘gracefully’ without breaking it in the future with an update to the core. I think if users are given a push in the right direction on how to hack the theme to their liking, then there might be less of a brouhaha with people requesting the removal or addition of elements on the current ui, such as was the original topic at hand. (And if there is a definitive howto on this, I need to find it!)

EDIT: Just noticed @abarker’s reply in the original thread, which is stating the same. (requoting here as ref for this new thread)

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I second this too. Even though I understand and respect the goals behind discourse UI design, the looks are something there can never be a strong consensus on because Discourse is in my opinion already very refined and quite spot on.

While codinghorror sees the minimalistic view as less readable and prefers avatars over usernames, I personally think the small avatars are nothing but irritating noise, and some people might argue that avatars should not be used at all while others might want more and even bigger ones.

My professional opinion is, despite sounding shallow or giving the impression that “i’m not getting it”, these issues are effectively matters of taste, so making customization easier also brings the prime ideas of Discourse closer to both admins and users that are not yet comfortable with Discourse.

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I think replacing them with names makes things just as busy, just in a different way. A wall of color looks better to my eyes than a wall of text.

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I do think this is a Great idea :wink: more more adaptable

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