Continuing the discussion from Discourse Version 3.2:
Since the focus for the upcoming Discourse release is announced to be AI, I’d like to take the opportunity to question this choice. After all, Discourse is made to support “thoughtful discussion and meaningful connections”.
Since the AI field is mostly dominated by huge corporations with deep pockets, and given that AI training is consuming large amounts of water, I’m genuinely asking why this feature is important to Discourse, the Discourse community, and the world at large. I can dig the “building forum software for the next decade” phrase but I’m not sure I want to live and converse with AI instead of humans — especially as humans seems to be requiring much less water over time for much better conversations.
The AI field is full of lies to attract investors. It seems that Official Discourse AI Plugin was introduced per customer request – probably some organizations running huge public instances and having to deal with tons of garbage. Sure, this is not for everyone, and probably appropriate if you have millions of users and must deal with that throwing more power at it…
I appreciate this disclaimer. But what happens to consent? Many people would prefer not to feed their posts to AI training, especially if they are on confidential communities or in restricted groups. There is a growing history of big corporations appropriating content for AI training without regard for Copyright laws nor consent. Is this really a good idea to feed them more high-quality content — and paying for it?
If there was a possibility to not consent to such personal data acquisition — and this can be a genuine demand under European GDPR Law —, wouldn’t this defeat the whole purpose of having AI policing a forum?
I really hope this will remain optional forever, and that proper consent will be displayed for this. Will it?
Well, I made this a separate topic from the plugin discussion because I think it deserves a wider take and did not want to derail the original discussion…
Here is a list of alternate titles “suggested by AI”:
- The Ethics of AI Enrichment in Discourse no, this is not an ‘enrichment’ I’m talking about, rather a concern for degraded human conversation…
- Discourse and AI: A Controversial Proposition well, noooo… it’s not about controverse, but about human conversations!
- Can AI Become the Future of Discourse Discussions? really… as in… bots talking to each other?
- AI Integration in Discourse: Threat or Innovation? bot, you’re not ready for the subtlety of language.