返信が新しいトピックに移動された場合、元のトピックのフォロワーも自動的に新しいトピックのフォロワーになります

When a post is moved to a new topic, the followers (those who watched the topic) of the original topic becomes automatically followers of the new topic (the moved reply).

while the notification level for the new topic should be set to Normal for users other than the original poster.

Continuing the discussion from I get notifications for topics I haven't chosen

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This is by design, @gerhard recently worked on this. The users expressed the will to watch the original topic so we assume they want to watch the new topic.

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aha, thanks for the declaration.

I can argue that most of the times, they don’t. because the new topic is something that doesn’t fit in the old one, otherwise it won’t get moved into a new topic.

I can share our user experience on this:

as a user during the past week, I was getting some notifications I didn’t want to! this happened for some of users as well, described in this topic: https://meta.discourse.org/t/i-get-notifications-for-topics-i-havent-chosen/129187.

our users complained us about it as we have violated their privacy by sending them notifications they didn’t chose to received!

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I think privacy violation here is a bit extreme of a position to take here.

Going to leave this to @codinghorror to decide, I am on a fence. May take him a while to reply here as he is out.

Assuming:

User (A,B,C,D) are watching topic X

User B posts
User C posts
User D posts

Mod splits off B,C to topic Y

Option 1 (currently happening)

A,B,C,D are now watching topic Y

Option 2

B,C are now watching topic Y (A,D are not)

Option 3

(something else) B,C watching topic Y, A,D tracking?


Jeff your call as to what you want here.

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I agree that this is not a privacy violation, no matter how loud they state it. But I liked that post because of this logic:

So only the posters who are already discussing something different should watch the new topic:

I corrected the option by changing B to D

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maybe I’m using a wrong word/context. their criticism was of course for us, and not to discourse. what they have said to us was this:

we feel that you are not respecting our interests, and you’ve forced us to follow some topics from specific users*!

{*we have 2-3 specific users with extra activity in our forum, who sometimes start extra discussion in a topic and we need to move their replies into a new discussion!}

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It seems there is only two options on the table, new way or old way, but in both ways the system decides.

I know there are holes in the following ideas, but it is just a compass bearing and not a detailed map.

Perhaps instead of the system deciding a new user option is added that allows a user to decide when a post is moved if they follow those post automatically (I think of this as the passive option).

Another option is that they are prompted when they visit either topic again and choose which of the post they want to continue to be notified. (I think of this as the active option).

I think that subscribing to the new post all users that have been subscribed to the original post is the correct solution, as it is now.

The users have not control of when an admin or mod can split a thread.
If they are interested in the theme of the post that is split, and they are not subscribed to it, they miss the opportunity to read what other people has to say, or even read that post if it is spitted before they read it, so they cannot know if it is of interest for them or not.

If they are subscribed to it and they are not interested, they always have te opportunity of unsubscribing from it.

I agree with Remah, any user whose post got moved to the new topic should watch, everyone else should be left untouched.

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@techAPJ can you make this change?

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cc @techAPJ

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問題は、この状況では良い解決策も悪い解決策もないということです。ユーザーが特定のトピックを「ウォッチ」または「フォロー」している場合、投稿が別のトピックに移動すると、一部のユーザーはその新しいトピックの変更について通知を受け取りたいと考え、他のユーザーは受け取りたくないと考えます。

この調整により、そのエッジケースをサポートするためにコードベースの複雑さが大幅に増大したため、その変更を元に戻し、コードベースを単純化することにしました。したがって、投稿が移動された場合、ユーザーの現在の通知レベルは新しいトピックに引き継がれます。

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同意しません。

返信が新しいトピックに移動されるということは、元の議論にとってはトピック外とみなされたことを意味し、新たなトピックとして作成される方が適切です。なぜユーザーがトピック外の議論に関心を持つ必要があるのでしょうか?

承知いたしました。残念ながら、この変更にはカスタムプラグインが必要になります。この特殊なケースを維持するためのロジックは複雑すぎるため、変更を加えた結果、他の深刻なバグが発生してしまいました。

ソフトウェアは、以下の理由で内容を分割しているのかを判断できません。

  • 話題から外れており、誰も関心を持っていない場合
  • 話題から外れているが、誰もが関心を持っている場合

誰も関心を持っていないのであれば、単にプライベートメッセージに変換するか、削除すべきだという意見もあるでしょう。

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その通り!だから、返信が分割されて削除されていない場合、それは価値があり、他の人が関心を持つ可能性があるということだ;彼らが選んだ場合に限って

了解しました :+1:

もしかしたら、私はその返信をきっかけにそのトピックをフォローしたのかもしれません。
通知が多すぎるくらいの方が、少ないよりもマシです。そして、新しいトピックをフォロー解除することもいつでもできます。

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