Why are the Watched Words settings under Logs instead of under Settings?

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The discussion revolves around the placement of the Watched Words settings under the Logs category. nedbat initially expressed difficulty in finding the settings, suggesting they should be under a more intuitive location such as /admin/site_settings/category/watchedwords. codinghorror explained that the settings need to be under one of the top-level categories, which led to a debate about the current categorization.

codinghorror justified the current placement under Logs, drawing a conceptual parallel between “screened IPs” and “screened words.” However, sam proposed an alternative solution, suggesting the creation of a “sub area” in Settings with sub-tabs for Site, Screened IPs, and Watched Words. bartv and eviltrout also expressed support for reorganizing or renaming the Logs tab to improve the discoverability of Watched Words. Ultimately, codinghorror is hesitant to implement changes at this time, considering the current setup “good enough.”

It took me forever to find them…

Because it had to be under one of the subareas, it can’t be at the root. Which other sub area do you think would be better?

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Maybe I’m misunderstanding something subtle here. I would expect it to be at something like /admin/site_settings/category/watchedwords .

It would need to be under one of these top level categories

It can’t be under “settings” because that is a list of key-value pairs in boolean/integer/list/etc type, not an actual interface for additional configuration.

If Logs contains “screened IPs” then conceptually watched words are “screened words”. It doesn’t seem that illogical to me, captain!

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I think we could make a “sub area” in Setting and add “Site, Screened Ips, Watched Words” as sub-tabs. I agree it is somewhat confusing that “logs” which is mostly about “mostly read” list of things is used to configure settings on the site. (still keep as default tab “Site”, so it would work just as it does today)

There is no ideal solution here, but kind of feels like sub-tabs in settings make sense.

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No way I want to take that on now. And log scanning – even real time log scanning – is pretty close to what’s going on there. Not perfect but “good enough” in my book.

How about renaming the ‘Logs’ tab to ‘Logs & Screening’? I must admit I’ve been unable to find watched words more than once too :slight_smile:

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Long term I would also support a change. I too admittedly have not been able to find words because it’s somewhat of a weird grouping.

I think the solution would probably involve a different design, such as a dropdown, that could hold more menu items.

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