SMTP без ежемесячной платы через Emailit – стоит рассмотреть?

Привет, ребята,

Нашёл отличное предложение для SMTP, главное преимущество — это единоразовый платёж. Есть разные тарифы от 20 тыс. до 1 млн писем в месяц с очень разумными ценами.

По сути, платите один раз — и получаете ежемесячную квоту на весь срок жизни продукта (который, надеемся, будет существовать вечно). Также можно доплачивать за превышение лимита, если это понадобится в будущем. Можно купить предложение несколько раз и объединить все покупки в один аккаунт (каждая покупка — это отдельное рабочее пространство).

Покупка таких ограниченных по времени предложений от начинающих стартапов — это своего рода лотерея, поэтому проведите собственное исследование. Но я считаю, что соотношение риска и вознаграждения для этого предложения довольно надёжное, а основатель, похоже, знает, что делает. Я уже покупал много подобных предложений и думаю, что это, скорее всего, будет успешным.

Можно заглянуть в их Discord: Dragit | Emailit

Вот само предложение: Emailit - Send emails with SMTP and API | AppSumo

Полагаю, вы можете получить скидку 10% на первую покупку на этой площадке, а также ещё 10% при покупке годовой подписки «Plus» (если добавить её в корзину, обе скидки должны примениться к первой покупке).

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I’ll throw in a good word with zero kickback or incentive for mxroute (or is it mxrouting?) for transactional emails. They’re really friendly for transactional emails with a lifetime plan. I got mine a while ago for a black Friday sale. I think they do referrals but I don’t want to do that here. They are friendly to transactional mail but will ban you quick for unsolicited commercial mail.

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Nice! Thanks for the heads up. I forgot about that deal, I was looking at it in the past for hosting some emails - might pick it up this year for that case. I was not aware of using it for transactional emails. Mxroute is well loved by a lot of users.

That company has been in existence for almost 10 years

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You are right - the product itself is new, with the company behind it being nearly 10 years old. I was speaking generally for these kinds of deals - usually it is for new products that are in the early stages. Early startup isn’t the best description for this scenario.

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I’ve purchased and connected it to a Staging site, and successfully sent and received the “Get Started” email from Discourse. So far, so good. I’ll follow up here after implementation on my Production site.

I was getting to a new and pricier tier at Mailgun, thus the economics here became very attractive.

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I’m always wary when I see such deals:

I’ve heard the recommendations and the supposed trustworthiness of the founder, but I’d still be reluctant to subscribe.

An ‘80+% off’ sale reminds me of how some providers display their pricing to mask shady practices like overselling.

I was recently looking for a pay-as-you-go plan but didn’t find many options. Mailgun initially hid, then completely removed, their pay-as-you-go “flex” plan. It seems providers aren’t too fond of these plans anymore, often pushing customers toward minimum $15–$20/month subscriptions for sending 10,000–20,000 emails, even when all we need is a few hundred.

Which providers offer plans for less than $5/month besides Amazon SES?

That said, a flat price and single payment for unlimited use is certainly an interesting business choice.

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You can use Brevo for 300 emails a day, for no cost.

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Also their starter offer is 6€ for 5000 emails/month, which is closer to what I generally need. Some of my forums send about 1000-2000 emails/month.

Thanks for the recommendation :+1:

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I spend $6 per month on Mailgun, now I want to try Emailit.

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:frowning:

This happened to me after using emailit.

@scavin, did you end up resolving the problem with emailit? It’s my plan to give them a shot very soon.

Hi I am currently using Mailgun.

While Emailit mentioned they would resolve the issue soon, I am not sure if it has been fixed yet :joy:

Hi, I confirm that emailit has fixed this issue. It’s working fine now.

@scavin glad that got resolved!

Hello :waving_hand:

I came across this recently and wanted to ask if anyone here is still using Emailit?

How reliable has it been for you in the long term?

Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hello :waving_hand:

After receiving an email from Mailgun about their upcoming price increase — doubling the Flex plan rate from $1.00 to $2.00 per 1,000 emails — I decided to switch over to Emailit today instead.

A quick note on setup

Overall, the setup was completely smooth. The only issue I ran into was the one discussed in this topic:

530 From header does not match MAIL FROM address

The fix was simple: the “Reply by email address” must not include a prefix like
replies+%{reply_key}@mydomain.com.

That pattern caused the error above. I removed the replies+ prefix, and everything started working perfectly.

My working configuration

After adding the DNS records and creating an API key in Emailit:

app.yml

DISCOURSE_SMTP_ADDRESS: smtp.emailit.com
DISCOURSE_SMTP_PORT: 587
DISCOURSE_SMTP_USER_NAME: emailit
DISCOURSE_SMTP_PASSWORD: "api-key" # (obtained from Emailit)
#DISCOURSE_SMTP_ENABLE_START_TLS: true           # (optional, default true)
DISCOURSE_SMTP_DOMAIN: mydomain.com
DISCOURSE_NOTIFICATION_EMAIL: notifications@mydomain.com

Site Setting:

Reply by email address: %{reply_key}@mydomain.com

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Fair enough, you’re right to be skeptical.

Just to add info, the deal marketing has a lot to do with how that marketplace itself displays deals.

There are a plethora of ways a purchase like this can go bad, some are:

  • Product dies.
  • Product stays alive, but is hardly maintained.
  • New features or limits are added in the future and are not included with the purchase, then the product slowly becomes less useful over time.
  • Product has success and is acquired, with purchased plans being dropped off in the process because ‘reasons’.
  • Any number of sketchy ways to mess with the purchased limits, like increasing credit consumption per action etc.
  • Deal is simply not honoured in the future.

With this deal, imo, the main costs being risked are:

  • Time or dev cost for implementing it (and replacing it later if it doesn’t work out)
  • Any negative consequences due to unexpected issues/bugs

The dollar cost itself is very minimal when compared to other similar monthly/usage billed solutions. So if thinking of it from the perspective of just the product dollar cost, it should be a fairly short amount of time before a buyer is ‘in the green’ compared to other solutions with the same quota. So the risk/reward in that regard is quite good imo, especially considering there is a 60d refund period.

Even a small subscription can add up quick, e.g. 6 EUR (~$7 USD) will end up costing 72 EUR (~$84 USD) annually. Free plans are great, but notorious for getting rug pulled. Due to being free, the provider has minimal obligation to continue providing that free service long term.

A lot of companies do deals like this to get enthusiastic users providing feedback for a young product, finding edge case bugs etc. Basically ensuring their product is battle tested. I think for an ESP that owns their own infrastructure (they have a small datacenter and their own IP block), it’s probably quite a sound strategy.

Don, I’ll be interested to hear if you run into any issues with the new Emailit rate limit of 2msg/sec – or if you know something about how Discourse handles outbound mail that makes this not a concern:

You can increase the rate limits and get moved off from the onboarding IPs by contacting support :+1:

In case it is helpful, for SES, they normally increase the rate limit automatically if you start hitting it. Last time this happened for me, it took about a day. All the mail above the limit did fail though, proactively contacting them works as well.