I think the fundamental problem here that @ChrisBeach is trying to bring up is.
Currently, the groups page, eg:
Is a place you go to basically stalk the translators and configure the translator group. As a translator you have very little reason to go there. It is not:
- A place for people to go to try to become translators and request access to the group.
- A place where translators interact with other translators on translator specific categories.
Our current design is very geared towards reading, and not interacting. Even in the messages tab can use some overhaul.
What @ChrisBeach is basically trying to say is
Can you let members of the translators group use the group page as their home? A place to talk
This is a fundamental change and I am super happy @codinghorror raised the question about this.
There is 1 non controversial, excellent change we can take:
Messages tab can be improved a fair bit with the tiny change of moving the new message button down
The fundamental question though which we should talk through is
When should translators have a private category where they interact VS when should they use group messages?
In the facebook world category == group, they are the same thing, 1 thing. This is how a lot of the world reasons about this.
In the Discourse case we have significant more flexibility, we can have a private category for a group, or for multiple groups, or messages.
Why did @ChrisBeach choose to go with a “category for a group” vs “messages between group members” ?
I think we need to explore this and think about it.
The OP here was asking to show all the secure categories the group has access to (to group members and admins) and allow them to interact on this page as well (just like they can today in the case of messages - which they can either author in the profile or in the messages tab on the group page)
I think allowing for a single page for the group to interact with other group members (either in secure categories or message) has merit. But … the other side of the coin is … are we setting us up for a bomb here? If they also see the same content when they hit the front page, are they not going to be somewhat scared?
This is a tricky problem, but my (1) and (2) should definitely be done, cause they are clear wins. Going for a full page refactor here focused on making this a home for group members to interact in secure categories requires a bit more thinking.