I think it is a reasonable approach, on the left you have a link to âProfileâ⌠on the right you have shortcuts to âstuff within Profileâ
Bookmarks, messages and preferences are all visible in profile. One could make a strong argument that âmessagesâ and âpreferencesâ are probably more used than âbookmarksâ.
UI wise being in the consistent gray coloring it does not seem to get in the way and cause too much distraction the strong blue on the other hand did.
If you want that, you can install a plugin for it (or use the log out keyboard shortcut we plan to add). Further discussion on this particular issue is no longer productive, and will not be tolerated.
But isnât that mostly because youâve jammed notifications in the place otherwise used to access the profile, messages, and other personal things normally associated with my avatarâŚ? It sounds like you want to remove almost everything that was already in that menu and just have it be notifications, which is something the notification bubble menu did perfectly fine already.
@eviltrout just to summarize some of the open issues:
Search is way too narrow can be twice as wide maybe even more
Positioning of slideout is broken on sites that have a custom header (like try.discourse) when you are on top.
Huge amount of whitespace when in âslideoutâ mode (particularly bad in search)
Styling of âselectedâ header item is off when expanded in slide out mode. (looks odd as an âopenâ square)
The sequence =/ renders search on top of hamburger
No way to tab to âlogoutâ on user profile page
We need a keyboard shortcut to get to profile gp is proposed
On route transition we are no longer collapsing expanded hamburger/user, this should happen.
We need to experiment with a âhorizontalâ layout for Latest/New/Unread, should use the post tracker to get counts.
Search on touch is terribad, @codinghorror and I discuss just taking you to full page search when you click the magnifying glass, tricky thing though is that you need to carry âcontextâ checkboxes like âsearch within profile or topicâ
Expanded hamburger is behind composer, should be in front
s we should look at a cleaner way of doing the localCache stuff for notifications[/s]
People said the way notifications refresh can be a bit jarring ⌠maybe a ârefreshingâ thing should display somewhere (but be careful to do that in an absolute panel (or at bottom) so stuff does not jump around)
Just for the record, I really like every change that has been made recently. Iâm waiting on the changes to come to the âofficialâ hamburger menu, but so far itâs perfect for my use of Discourse.
We have a plugin which allows moderators to save PMs as usernotes. Every time I send a PM via the flag system, I then have to visit that PM in my messages to save it, so thatâs multiple times a day. I know thatâs not a typical set-up; just pointing out that there are different ways of working, and extensive use of PMs is not necessarily a Bad Thing.
I can think of three reasons just off the top of my head why a shortcut to messages is useful outside the scope of recent notifications:
Returning to an already read private message to reference information it contains. e.g. âOh hey what was that cool link that guy sent me that I didnât have a chance to check out before.â
Returning to an already read private message to make an additional reply. e.g. Bob and I have been chatting about this new game, I just now saw a news item on it so I want to message him about it, except I want to use the long conversation weâve already been having instead of starting a new one.
Sending a private message. Unless you happen to already be looking at their profile or a post they made so you can access their user card, the option to send a private message is fairly buried. First you have to go to your Profile, then scroll down, then click on Messages, then send a new message.
I think these are all legitimate use cases and donât necessarily constitute âa bunch of private below the radar conversations,â i.e. theyâre not automatically abuse of the system. There are real needs to use private messaging sometimes.
In any case, @sam 's latest changes using glyphs seem to solve the problem nicely.
A fourth case: Often, the lack of response to an older message is what prompts me to send another PM to remind someone Iâm still waiting for them. I get a lot of notifications, so often I have to dig through my PM list to find a week-old message.
That said, Iâve installed a userscript that pulls out my PMs to a separate glyph anyway. Iâd be happy to get rid of it if there was an easier way in core, hence why Iâm posting at all, but if not, Iâve got a solution that works(-ish) for me.
I am feeling much happier about the changes as of Monday morning and am super appreciative of the work done over the weekend. I know this type of change takes some guts to make and itâs you showing these guts that makes me love you guys all the more.
Some smallish feedback:
Ten notifications is too many for my laptop - the âview older notificationsâ link at bottom disappears off the bottom, esp if some are for posts with longer titles that wrap to more than 3-4 lines. If there is no way to simply display as many notifications as possible on the screen (10 is too few for my desktop!), maybe this issue could be allieviated by supplementing the âview older notificationsâ link below with a notifications glyph at the top alongside the bookmarks, messaging and preferences glyph?
I also miss the logout link and am a bit confused about it being relegated to the profile page. Itâs my not-so-tech-savvy members in cybercafes in Africa who need to find it easily or have their sessions expire, not the power users who might use keyboard shortcuts.
One issue I have on my iPhone, maybe it was mentioned already:
The hamburger menu is not fully scrollable here on meta on mobile. I canât see the last 3 categories.
Is anyone else seeing alignment issues here (under the actual hamburger menu, not the new notification / profile menu):
Also, since those numbers represent new topics in those categories, should the color be blue to match with the indicator youâd see in the topic list?
Iâm missing the ability to X out of menus, especially on mobile. On my discourse I have a custom menu above the discourse menu, which pushes the discourse menu down so itâs hidden behind the menus. If I scroll down it appears again and I am able to escape. phew
Even so, not sure if itâs intuitive enough that hitting ESC or selecting on the menu glyph or my avatar will close the menu again. Worth testing.
indicator youâd see in the topic list?