Its also totally a bug you cannot tab to âLogoutâ on profile, so weird⌠it just skips it.
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LOL, then we can make GPL ⌠log you out 
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Iâm noticing on the examples from other sites around the web, that are posted on this thread, the use of:
Or a similar down arrow glyph to indicate there is a menu available under the avatar. Now that I think about it, I have noticed that some of our users never clicked on the previous notification bubble. I didnât think to ask them, but I wonder if they never clicked because they didnât realize it was a menu.
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Ugh this is Mobile Safariâs buggy behavior again. Will likely require some crazy hack.
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The latest changes with glyphs + labels are nice, definitely more effective than either on their own.
Seems like thereâs room for one more though. Any reason why the shortcut to messages was removed? I feel like it was already pretty hard to find, now itâs even more buried.
I guess we could fit messages there but there are 2 concerns
- Localization
- If anon mode is enabled at the moment we use a slot there
2 is easily solvable by shifting it to below notifications
What about an envelop icon?
I will try out @codinghorrorâs mock tomorrow
Did not have much time today
Also⌠Why did no-one notice the spectacular notification caching
I like @codinghorrorâs mockup, with the addition of an icon on Profile and a subtle Log out button.
Quick mockup:
Only profile needs text spelled out. The remaining glyphs can be quickly learned by going to your profile and see them all spelled out there. That should be a satisfactory amount of this âinformation scentâ that everyoneâs been getting a whiff of lately.
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Also⌠Why did no-one notice the spectacular notification caching
[/quote]You mean the fact that you no longer have to wait half a second while it loads? Yes, I noticed, itâs super neat! (although the addition of new notifications is a tad jarring. Perhaps a subtle animation is in order?)
p.s. for a while now weâve been discussing the aftershock of the Hamburger menu.
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I 100% agree on the icon part. The vertical layout seems minor to me. For the icons, I propose something like this (note that on an admin account, the first two entries do have an icon):
âŚshould become:
Not sure about the categories link, though - this is a dual use item: it is a header for the list below, but also a link to the categories page.
If the above would be of interest, I would be glad to send a community PR for it. Just let me know.
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Possibly, I think we need row and column layout for these menus as well. And grouping a bit, too, for example Admin functions should be grouped.
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True, a little more structure might look more attractive there.
Plus, we waste quite a bit of screen real estate with all the white space right of the hamburger linksâŚ
The click target for Bookmarks and Profile should match the yellow highlight.
Currently clicking in the yellow, empty space does nothing.
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For the record, I just want to say I really donât like putting the notifications under the profile picture, partly because it just doesnât sit right (the norm is profile stuff under the profile picture), but mostly because it removes the easy access to PMs, and I much prefer having quick access to messages.
I get the feeling Iâm outnumbered here though 
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I think that is easily solvable with the glyphs at the top, will be just as easy to reach.
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I think a very natural fit is 1 row with
Latest Unread(1) New(2)
That would match the general nav and easily draw attention to it while compressing the nav
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You do have easy access to messages, when you are notified about one, click or tap on it to be taken to the message.
What I donât understand is why people might need to visit private (personal) messages for any other reason than someone just replied to one, or sent you oneâŚ
I actually get this request, there are a breed of users that use PMs VERY extensively. I have seen 40K message pm streams on gearboxâŚ
If you use the feature very heavily then this is a âshortcutâ you use a lot.
Its just the same a âwhy show latest in hamburger?â you can still get there in 2 clicks.
(you may want to dig up a PM, you may want to compose a new PM etc.)
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More open to that than logout, which is indefensible.
Edit: however, it is not the same as hamburger as that is generally 100% optional menu. So we are forcing everyone to see it every time they visit notifications which is quite frequent, and really mandatory if you are actually engaging with people in discussion.
Not quite sure âarbitrary link to private (personal) messages, when you get urgently notified every time you have one anywayâ is super defensible in that context. I actually do not want to encourage a bunch of private below the radar conversations, either.