I wanted to start a topic for people trying to monetize Discourse and share ideas.
If you’re not trying to monetize Discourse then this topic is not for you
My experience with adsense on Discourse hasn’t been
great so far. So far my site is costing me $10 a month; adsense is estimating I will make $0.25 every 10000 views. I’m nowhere near 1000 views yet.
If you aren’t at 1000 views, not much as far as advertising is going to work for you. All depends on what type of forum you’re running, how you want to show the forum off, etc. If you’re running a forum purely for the intent of making money, you’re going to have a bad time at the start. You won’t be making much even once you have quite the active forum - maybe enough to cover cost.
The best plan is to not consider monetization at the start, and to only figure that out later, once you have a loyal userbase. Nothing alienates potential new users than a slow community and an ad on every pixel of the screen. You also have to consider what type of forum you are running / what content will be hosted as that effects what adverts are shown and how much you get per click per view.
As for how I would do it on a general forum with no specific niche, probably have promoted posts and/or advertising above content as the sponsored by section. There is no default advertising plugin or backend solution for advertising as far as I know in discourse so this would have to be done by hand though I imagine not too difficult. The only forums I can think of that have advertising built into the system is IPB and vB, though I’m not too familiar with vB5.
I started a community group on Facebook for a niche a few years agos. Now the community pretty much runs it self without me having to post anything. It’s a case of moving existing community onto its own platform. They do post every day in their very active community online and off line.
I’ve done bit of research and it’s interesting to see what people are saying about forums:
Socially Uncensored is hobby, not a business. With this said, we attempted to place ads on our site once. We used Google Ads and even tried ads with both forum runner & tapatalk. In 1 years time… We made a total of 1 cent, despite having over 100 members online daily throughout the year. We’re ad free now.
On the upside for forums
Niche markets have much higher values than general ones. Eg starting up a “it hardware forum” would probably never make any real money today unless you became huge and successful like toms hardware or guru3d. However, launching something specific, like a pokemon forum, would give you a much more saleable market to approach advertisers and you then command a premium rate. Simple supply and demand. Eg, Nescafe vs Kopi Luwak
Thanks for your reply Jeff People rarely click on banner adsense ads nowadays. I like this idea for a discourse advertising network. It basically idea of discourse wordpress plugin for posting from wordpress on to discourse. Instead it’s a ad platform for posting to different discourse sites.
Advertiser
Instead of the normal adsense banner ad, It’s a piece of java script you place in like a adsense ad to your discourse site. It shows discussion topics in the discourse style format.
Publisher
You write a topic to talk or select one from your current discourse site
You select sites that are relevant to your niches
You pay the ad fee for those sites
The sites review those topic
If topics are accepted by the sites they are published
All sudden your get emails back about people who talking about your topic!
User
Of course people will click on the ad! Because for them it looks just the same as normal post topic and it’s about something their interested in!
Bonus
Unlike PPC where you’re just paying for a click and that’s it. You’re now paying for a discussion. You get to talk to your ideal clients. At the end of the day, that’s what advertisiers really want – they don’t want clicks, they want to talk to their ideal clients!
Another bonus for site owners: I’m now getting content and getting paid for it too!
If you had a games forum – what better than having top games company post their latest news on your site for your community to talk about. It’s a win-win Situation for site owners and advertisers!
I’m just trying think of new ways of advertising that doesn’t involve banner ads.
This is interesting!
It just goes to show banner ad’s are not as effective as they used to be
Google’s Troubled $12.7bn AdSense Network?
*Google’s latest quarterly financial report shows problems in its AdSense network, which was responsible for 29% of last year’s $43.7 billion in revenues.
It means a lot less money for Google’s network of publishing partners, such as the New York Times.
Foremski’s Take: $GOOG’s Q3 report showed zero growth for AdSense compared with 22% yearly growth for its AdWords network.
Not only has yearly growth come to a stop but AdSense revenues have shrunk every quarter this year (see chart below).*
The continuing plunge in AdSense is in sharp contrast to robust 20% revenue growth in 2012, which outpaced AdWords’ growth of 19%.
Matt Sanchez, CEO of San Francisco based ad network Say Media, recently warned that, “Mobile Is Killing Media.”
Digital publishing is headed off a cliff … There’s a five fold gap between mobile revenue and desktop revenue… What makes that gap even starker is how quickly it’s happening… On the industry’s current course, that’s a recipe for disaster.
Building up a solid userbase and traffic levels precipitate monetizing any online community, so keep that in mind, but anyway…
I wouldn’t waste time with AdSense at all, especially at such low traffic levels. You’re looking at maybe making a few cents, if anything. It’s just not worth the eyesore and potential turnoff from current or potential members.
If you’re monetizing with ads at all, go with Buy Sell Ads, do direct sales, or do affiliate ads.
Also, what niche is your forum? Are there any other affiliate products or services you can market besides those on Amazon?
I’m not sure how to do this technically when it comes to Discourse, although selling “Pro” accounts for a reasonable price could be a viable option. You could offer benefits like access to private forums and other stuff, but it all really depends on your audience. You gotta get creative.
This is interesting - but a little complex. One of the issues is that there are basically two ways that people buy ads right now - via word choices (e.g. ad words) and banners. If you are something new - then none of the regular ad rep companies will be able to work with you.
The issue becomes - sure - it sounds compelling from a new idea standpoint - but nobody will be able to “buy” the ads - because its a non-standard way to implement ads. Fundamentally - I don’t think Discourse is going to be the one to redefine a new ad format for the world.
This may be true - but we’re not going to be the ones that define it. I get a few hundred thousand views on my forums and here is my priority as a way to monetize it:
The idea I do think is most interesting here is the idea of what I would call “sponsored posts” - similar to what they do in Twitter or Facebook. I haven’t really investigated this - so don’t know the full set of pros and cons - but it seems like it could be interesting - if adword ads could be put into the forums in a format that tends to look similar to the regular forum posts.
Seconded.
Also, if your monetization target is in the order of 10$/month, you’re going to waste a lot of time trying to earn that via ads. Better to have a flourishing community and enjoy talking to nice people while paying that amount out of your own pocket.
@codinghorror was most-likely implying that a 10 or 30 dollar VPS bill (per month) can be wheedled down to five dollars as of right now with proper monetizing strategies.
Technology always matures and becomes more inexpensive. In due time it will probably run for five dollars a month for what the average VPS has in features that (for now) costs 10-30 dollars a month.
To keep on topic: I plan on using Something Awful’s strategy in having a user pay a certain amount as a ‘tax’ upon entry (one-time fee). I already spoke about this with my regulars and they all agree to it, even helping by offering money and sponsoring new members that way.