However the main big downside to this is that you cannot use the native text selection and options In chat we just offer to copy the whole message to clipboard, but we don’t want to do that for post quotes.
Maybe on mobile only we have a single “Selection options…” popup button that would then slide up the menu from the bottom?
The slide out menu could have:
It’s tricky because this is mostly a UI issue on mobile…
Is the “Copy Quote” wording helping here a bit? I worry about holding up this feature when it’s a clear improvement for people.
I think the question of “What do we do with all these buttons in the selection menu on mobile?” that Kris brings up and I have some ideas for above is a separate one. I would love to get this experiment into core soon.
I think the crux would be whether this is a useful feature for most people or only a handful. It does take up valuable real estate and make the UI busier/more complex for the average user. If the majority of people never use it/never need to use it then it may need some way of turning it on/off and letting people reclaim their simple menu.
I’ve updated the OP to explain with more depth why this is useful and who for.
The same could be said for the Ask AI button, or the Share button, or any other button we may have here. I do agree that this menu is getting a bit busy, especially on mobile, but as I said I think that’s the subject of another discussion.
So at the moment this is an experiment. After the experiment it can become part of core. Then you get it with your next update. If this becomes a theme component you could install it like any other theme-component.
Same, I also only use the link copy button. I also have never used the “Ask AI” button.
This is tricky, because plugins (e.g. AI) and theme components can add additional buttons, so it’s hard to have a “default simple” experience.
Maybe we have the default layout be like this:
Quote (old quote button)
Last used (LocalStorage)
Where the ... menu is:
Send to outer space (other additional buttons)
Which also promotes the “last used” button to the top menu. This does basically take us back here for mobile though:
This becomes much more work though, so I am not sure what to do in the interim for this “Copy Quote” button Perhaps in the meantime we could add a post_quote_menu site setting with quote|edit as the default, and additional share|copy_quote options? Then plugins would still be able to add their own buttons too.
Either this, or flip it on its head – add a post_quote_menu user preference, that allows users to specify which buttons are shown, and provide a way for plugins to cleanly register additional buttons (e.g. ask_ai)
I would claim sharing is the least used action webworld wide. Well, commenting is close, but because forums are based on commenting it raises sharing to top
But Ask AI — I use it everyday. And when I teached it to my users they like it almost as much as fast edit. But is it such option that should be visible all the time? Perhaps not. But it should be near, and no, keyboard shortcuts aren’t same as near or easy access
I would really love to see this. It’s an area where the usage can be very different depending on the user and having preferences make sense. I’m also very curious about the potential of creative plugins in this context.
This is a useful edit, it allows me to more easily quote topics without having to cut it from the composer and put it where it is supposed to be, saves lots of time. I can simply copy it to the clipboard and make it easy to use.
Actually yes I know the fix for that, I will do that.
Sure, I will try and do that in the experiment…I think I should be able to. Will push this up today soon .
This is interesting – I just tried it for the first time and it’s pretty cool, but my instant habit would be to just open new tab + Google. Do you most often use it for translating things or explaining things?
Explaining. I’m a quite hard core user of Google, but I don’t see a point to jump around for an definition or short explanation. Sure, if I want to, or need, get deeper info then I move to Google, because AI just doesn’t work very good and looses against 20 pages of search hits and 50 open tabs
But for searching Ask AI is very much same as fast edit is for composer.