Hi Discourse Team, with one of a recent upgrade it seems the category setting Suppress category from latest topics Is missing and I can’t find in the release notes, that this was intentional? Here is the latest information I’ve found from @jomaxro https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-category-from-latest/86023/4?u=b-iggy This was a very important setting for me. Can you please verify? Thanks

Thanks @sam for the timeframe (even though we are still not on the same page about this ““anti user feature””) :wink: Anyways, thanks @vinothkannans and ultimately thanks @RGJ for providing this plugin! After a first issue and a super fast fix, I can confirm I have my beloved forum theme and flow for my users back! Happy days. :partying_face: I consider this “ticket” as closed for now :slight_smile:

This is the latest info, see last post update 8 days ago from @sam [imagem] Latest RSS feed ignore "Suppress category from latest topics" setting Bug Go to the settings of some topic and check “Suppress category from latest topics.” then post something to that topic. It is correctly not shown in the Latest tab, but when you open the RSS feed then it contains the post. Can be seen here: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/projects-in-copr this category has “Suppress category from latest topics.” set to on. There is a lot of new topics. Fedora Discussion does not show those topics, however /latest.rss shows topics from Projects in Cop…

From Latest RSS feed ignore "Suppress category from latest topics" setting - #5 by rishabh, have you tried using the default categories muted site setting instead? [image]

Oh, sorry I have not found it. Thanks! @rishabh @Tracey Then it’s not a bug of course. Not the right place for this and it seems decided but that is a big loss of functionality for me. Muted and suppress are two very different things. Background: I’m using a “Get Support” category for players, where they can create tickets. While I don’t want to show thousands of tickets to everyone in latest, I still want that those inflicted get notified about stuff going on there. I see if I can get a workaround :frowning:

Not following at all, they are functionally equivalent except that mute is more flexible Can you please explain

This should be related to this pull request which resulted in this commit, three days ago. https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/8308

Alright, let me explain. As pre info: suppress gives the “Designer/Owner” of a forum control over the usability flow of users. Users do not know all the features, buttons, dropdowns and what not by themselves. Discourse is an active “search that feature” discovery, if you know what I mean. Sorry for backlinking my forum, but maybe you can follow better then If you mute a whole (sub)category for everyone, that (sub)category is not shown in this configuration anymore for example: [image] In this case it is a “Get Support” category with a “Support” sub category. Muted means, it’s not visible on the front page anymore (the most important landing page for new users, who in this case needs help): [image] The user has to actively “unmute” that subcategory by himself to see it [image] Well but then he sees all the “flood” of support tickets from other players on the right side: [image] With suppress the subcategories were visible for everyone on the left side and just did what I wanted: do not show all the topics from the subcategory on the right side under “latest” but let the user know, that there is a support subcategory [image] Because the sub category “Support” has hundreds of tickets, many get replied to per day, so they would push important “normal” discussions away, while Support tickets are only interesting for 1-2 players. TL;DR: mute is technically similar like suppress but usability wise out of control of designing a specific forum. Users do not find the mute button themselves, don’t know what it do exactly and eventually just don’t get what I want them to get or like you said: [imagem] sam: mute is more flexible For the user: yes. For the forum owner/designer: no. I hope I could explain it a bit.

OK, to recap, you were relying on: Suppress from latest: only removing stuff from /latest topic list Category mute: remove from /latest topic lists, remove from /categories and left hand panel showing categories. We have had a lot of confusion around this feature: [imagem] Muted subcategory hiding in subcategory list UX I found a slight inconsistency in the UI that confused a user today. When you mute a subcategory, it is then hidden from the list in the parent category from Show subcategory list above topics in this category. For example, I muted advertising in the plugins category, if you then go to plugins, it is hidden: [image] But, on the main categories page it is still visible: [image] Super rare situation, but it seems to me that the category shouldn’t be hidden from view like this, or is it intend… [imagem] Same Behaviour of Muted Category in all the SITE Feature The top menu is configure like this: [Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202019-05-01%2015-40-41] The page style is configure like this: [Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202019-05-01%2015-41-21] so I have: On The Left Category-1 everyone can create/see/reply but Require moderator approval of all new topics ** sub-category-1 everyone can create/see/reply without restriction ** sub-category-2 everyone can create/see/reply without restriction Category-2 everyone can create/see/reply but Require … [imagem] Muted categories appear in Categories page UX I muted two categories and it still appear on top of the categories page (since it have recent activity). Shouldn’t it be hidden or at the bottom? It’s more annoying when I use categories as home page. And “categories with featured topics” option even showing me muted category’s topics too. Also is it better to order categories by notification_level and then activity. [imagem] Un-suppress from latest topics - if it has comments shopping_cartMarketplace What would you like done? When do you need it done? asap What is your budget, in $ USD that you can offer for this task? 100$ [imagem] Unexpected interaction between "suppress category on homepage" and "user preference for homepage" UX I found this behavior somewhat unexpected: Create category “Foo” with setting “suppress this category from homepage” Create topic “Bar” in category “Foo” Top menu is set to Latest | Categories | Unread Topic “bar” is not shown on Latest, but is shown on Categories (so far so good). In user preferences, select “Categories” as the homepage Now, for that user, topic “bar” is shown on Latest but the entire Foo category is hidden on their Categories page. I think it may improve things if there we… [imagem] Suppress category from new topics Feature We have a category, which creates lots of new topic because of embedding (topics are automatically created when a page with embedded Discussion is shown). Projects in Copr - Fedora Discussion People are asking that this category should be suppressed from New topic. It can be suppressed form latest, but not from new. It would be nice to have a checkbox with “Suppress category from new topics”. (and RSS feed). I am mixed on how to handle this. As it stands we have a system now that is incredibly easy to explain and provides end users with extreme flexibility. The old “suppress from latest” was not something a user could override and was hidden from users and magical. Overall, we are going to have to wait on this now for at least 2 weeks to gather more feedback from the community.

Yeah, I can imagine that there are a lot of conflicts and/or confusion :slight_smile: In my case it’s also rather focused around the desktop style [image] (Which by the way should be please boosted a lot more. For example “Boxes with Latest Topics” would be awesome. The Desktop page is the “face” of your forum, so it should be beautiful and clear, right? :blush: ) Alright, I’m interested in how it turns out after 2 weeks. As a suggestion for mute: [image] I would just keep categories visible on the desktop page. I think mute should only count for something “active”. Like topics or posts. But categories are “static”. They do not harm users, except taking away some pixels on their screens? :slight_smile:

Another major difference between the ‘suppress_from_latest’ function and default mute is that when I mute a category, this only hides topics that I’m not watching from the Latest page. I would like to hide a category completely from the Latest page, and this doesn’t seem to be possible with the default mute option.

Can you expand about this a bit? Why would you be watching a topic and not want to see it in your latest feed?

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Tracey (AZone.Fr) Novembro 20, 2019, 9:47am 2

Esta é a informação mais recente, veja a última atualização do post de 8 dias atrás por @sam

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