A better way to inform admins that some setting changes require specific sysadmin tasks

[nathank (Nathan Kershaw)]

@nathank

I’ll run the rake task late tonight at a safe time and let you know how it gets on.

I’ve done this now (took a couple of minutes), with a rebuild for good measure. Interestingly, the search results are now the same () but only the accent-specific search terms are highlighted. Is that intended?

Do you think it would be helpful to include that a re-index of search is necessary on the setting explainer?

I also wonder what would be the best way to make its existence more obvious to sites who focus on those countries where it would be sensible to apply the setting.

[tobiaseigen]

Am I understanding this correctly?

When the Search ignore accents setting is enabled, its effect is not noticeable until the jobs::ReindexSearch rake task is run. Maybe a change could be made to prompt the admin to run immediately when the setting is toggled? If not, then yes the description for the Search ignore accents setting needs an addition. Maybe something like the below?

Accent marks in search queries are disregarded if this setting is enabled, allowing users to find results even if they don’t input the correct accents. If you change this, it will take effect next time search is reindexed, a daily task.

[JammyDodger]

My post was unfortunately not the right answer.

Toggling this setting on relies on running the beefier manual rake task to include historical data.

[tobiaseigen]

Oh ok. If that’s true then updating the description is not going to be enough either. I am not in favor of adding instructions to run rake tasks to setting descriptions in the UI because it’s not possible to run rake tasks on our hosting.

I think the approach of prompting the admin to run the full reindexing would work. We’ve used that in other situations too.

I am going to move this to Feature so it can be considered. I think Add rel nofollow to user content and spoiler enableddeserve the same treatment.

[JammyDodger]

I think there’s an option to have a different description for hosted sites v self-hosted. Eg. Max image size KB

But if there’s an even better way then

It might be worth splitting this topic and having the Feature/UX request of amending the description separate from the original support ask, as I think Nathan nailed the solution in his first reply.

[tobiaseigen]

I continue to marvel at your encyclopedic knowledge of Discourse, Jammydodger! You’re incredible.

I did the split to give Nathan full props for answering the original support question leading to this feature request.

[Moin]

I see four settings that require rebake

And two which require a restart, which I don’t think is possible as a hosted customer either

[Moin]

@JammyDodger

I think there’s an option to have a different description for hosted sites v self-hosted. Eg. Max image size KB

The problem with that is that only the English translation is overwritten. For example, this is English:

But when I change my locale to German, I see:

But that problem is not limited to site settings:

(Maybe German customers are smarter, so they don’t need to ask for assistance )

[JammyDodger]

Ah yes. It is unfortunate that the hosted site texts don’t get translations.