Yeah sorry @ajabogdanoff I was thinking of the previous discussion about topic vetting.
So there are two things here:
Are we talking about replies, or topics?
Are we screening content before anyone can see it, or after people have seen it?
Topics are much more dangerous in my opinion, since a front page filled with inane and ridiculous topic titles ensures that nobody is going to stick around on your forum, whereas the occasional inane reply to a topic isn’t that big a deal, and is easily ignored by the overall community. Now, if every reply is inane, or if there’s a massive influx of constant noise in replies, then you certainly have a problem. But the system can tolerate quite a bit of noise in replies without breaking down, whereas noise in topics is far deadlier.
I am much more open to strict moderation on starting new topics, because it is safer and easier on every level. There’s less topics, they are far more important to the structure of the site than individual replies, and so forth.
It is very different, it is the difference between “guilty until proven innocent” and “innocent until proven guilty”. HUGE difference, just try committing a crime in one system versus the other
But there’s the catch-22 – how do you know someone will be disruptive, unless you let them post first to see?
I think it’s a huge ask to require the community deal with every new user creating “invisible” posts that other community members have to somehow like or otherwise support before they can be visible at all. Huge, huge ask, because if they aren’t actively “liking” or somehow vetting these posts, you will have no new users. It’s kind of like never ending, ongoing work… your users must commit to constant “like”-ing of new user posts, not just occasionally flagging things that are out of bounds.
It also reminds me a little of hellbanning all your new users: Suspension, Ban or Hellban?
Another idea that came up in another topic here is for new users to be isolated to certain sandbox categories, and they can only escape the sandbox if they gain trust levels. But that’s also complicated, and has a Lord of the Flies aspect to it, because what sane person wants to go into the sandbox with all the newbies and duke it out?
I understand the goal, but I’m not sure this is the way. Pre-moderation of topics is very strong, has almost no downsides. But pre-moderation of all new user posts just makes my spider sense tingle and not in the good way…