Please update 'Understanding Discourse Trust Levels' — or is there a different doc?

Continuing the discussion from Own-topics-only category for draft announcements?:

I learned recently that TL4 users can schedule posts. I thought that was moderator (or admin?) only. I know Understanding Discourse Trust Levels is “just” a blog post, but it’s linked prominently in a lot of places, so I kind of assumed it was comprehensive.

What other things do TL4 users get that aren’t listed? What about at other trust levels? Thank you!

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Hi @mattdm :slight_smile:

Someone is looking into amending the blog, but in the meantime I can check out a TL4 test-user and give a quick overview if that’s any help?

Post Wrench:

  • Add Staff Notice
  • Make Wiki[1]
  • Rebuild HTML

Topic Wrench:

  • Select Posts (delete[2], move to, merge)
  • Close Topic
  • Set Topic Timer (Auto-Close Topic, Auto-Close Topic After Last Post, Auto-Bump Topic, Close Temporarily, Schedule Publishing[3])
  • Pin Topic (Pin Topic, Pin Topic Globally)
  • Reset Bump Date
  • Archive Topic
  • Make Unlisted
  • Set Slow Mode

That’s just a quick check of the menus though, so let me know if you’d like me to look anywhere else while the blog is being updated. :+1: :slight_smile:

A couple of others:

  • Global edit
  • Mark solutions
  • Flags take immediate effect

  1. Though that’s TL3+ ↩︎

  2. For deleting their own posts in bulk ↩︎

  3. When the topic is Unlisted/PM/Private Category ↩︎

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Thank you! Yeah, that’s very helpful. I see the one footnote — are there other additional TL3 or even TL2 things?

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I have started a grid. :slight_smile: I have taken the excellent one from this post - Is there a Trust Level Permissions Table? - #10 by lionel-rowe and tried to update and condense it a little. It definitely needs another going over, but I thought I’d share now in case anyone had any notes. Any pointers on what else to include/correct? New_User? Category moderator? Plug-in section (eg Solutions)? Better grouping?

Draft Grid

:warning: Under construction!

Trust Level Grid

TL = Trust Level dependant
:gear: = Enabled by admin setting

Post Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Post Replies 10 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Post Topics 3 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Reply as Linked Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Email-in New Topics :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Access Shared Drafts :white_check_mark:
Post Images 1 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Post Hyperlinks 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Mention users in a post 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Use @here Mention :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Post Attachments :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Create Polls :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Close Any Poll :white_check_mark:
Edit Post Time 24
hrs
24
hrs
30
days
30
days
no
limit
TL no
limit
Edit Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Make their own posts into Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Edit all Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Own Posts (not Topics)[1] :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Other User’s Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
View Deleted Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Anonymous Posting :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Rebuild HTML :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Notice :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Colour :white_check_mark:
Grant Badge :white_check_mark:
Lock Post :white_check_mark:
User Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Daily Like Limit/Multiplier 50 50 x1.5 x2 x3 TL x3
Upload Avatar :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Profile Background :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Usercard Background :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Mute other users :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Ignore other users :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
View New User Post Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
View Returning User Post Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Have actual links in the ‘about me’ field of their profile :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Have all their links followed (automatic nofollow removed) :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Access a secure category only visible to users at trust level 3 and higher :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Have Shield Icon :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Manage Users :white_check_mark:
Flagging TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Flag Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
TL3 spam flags cast on TL0 user posts immediately hide the post :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
TL3 flags cast on TL0 user posts in sufficient diversity will auto-silence the user and hide all their posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Flagging a post immediately takes effect and hides the target post :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Review Posts and Flags :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Silence or Suspend Users :white_check_mark:
Communicating TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Can send Personal Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Invite outside users to PMs making a group PM :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Use the: “Invite others to this topic” button for one-click onboarding of new users to participate in topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Can send personal messages to an email address :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Topic Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Tag a Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Create Tags :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Re-categorize and rename topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL/Category :white_check_mark:
Split and Merge Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Pin/unpin topic
 Pin Topic
 Pin Topic Globally
 Make Banner
:white_check_mark:


:x:
:white_check_mark:

TL
:x:
:white_check_mark:


Close topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Archive topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Make topics Unlisted :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
See Unlisted Topics in Topic List :white_check_mark:
Reset topic bump date :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Set Topic Timer
 Auto-Close Topic
 Auto-Close Topic After Last Post
 Auto-Bump Topic
 Close Temporarily
 Schedule Publishing
 Auto-Delete Topic
 Auto-Delete Replies
:white_check_mark:





:x:
:x:
TL
TL
TL
TL
TL
TL
:x:
:x:
:white_check_mark:







Change Timestamp :white_check_mark:
Make Personal Message/Public Topic :white_check_mark:
Moderation History :white_check_mark:
Forum Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Edit Category Descriptions :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Watched Words :white_check_mark:
Change User’s Trust Level :white_check_mark:
View Logs (Staff Actions, Screened Emails, Screened IPs, Screened URLs, Search Logs) :white_check_mark:
View Dashboard (no upgrade option) :white_check_mark:
Allow moderators to manage categories and groups :gear:
Allow moderators to change post ownership :gear:
Allow moderators to view user emails :gear:
Plugins TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Mark Solutions :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:

Changes:

  • Added more abilities
  • Added Category Moderator and Moderator. Held off on New_User/First_Day and Admin/Sysadmin for now.
  • Started plugin section
  • Added info from Comparing moderation powers
  • Added trial footnote

To do:

  • Check for accuracy, and see if anything is missing
  • Add more plugin extra options
  • Add category moderator and new_user?
  • Fold in Comparing moderation powers
  • Include sysadmin, admin and moderator?
  • Maybe add footnote to delete topic about being possible if no replies?

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  1. Unless topic has no replies ↩︎

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Maybe this table could be included

And there is also Description of various user states in Discourse (Admin / Moderator / Staff / Developer / Other).
Having at least 4 topics in 3 categories about different users and their permissions is quite confusing.

Can they delete everyones posts or just their posts?

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Good spot. :+1: I had thought using the select option in the topic wrench allowed the TL4 to delete everyone’s, but I’d only selected my own posts. When I select another user’s the delete option disappears, so it’s the same as everyone else. I’ll clean it up. :slightly_smiling_face:

And thanks for the links. I’ll see if I can fold them in. :+1:

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I’ve had another pass at it. :+1: :slight_smile: Please update 'Understanding Discourse Trust Levels' — or is there a different doc? - #8 by JammyDodger

What do we reckon? Have I over-egged it?

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Cool! :+1:

However, the black checkmarks are hard to distinguish on the dark theme:

image

Maybe replace them by ✓?

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Aah, hello dark theme, my old friend. :slight_smile:

I’ve swopped them out. :+1: Is that better?

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Yes, way better on a dark theme, thanks. Would be (probably) even better in bold :sweat_smile:

✓ →


Seen the result, that’s perfect :ok_hand:

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I suggest you replace “private message” by “direct message” and “PM” by “DM”. :slight_smile:

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I’ve gone with updating the ‘Private Messages’ one to ‘Can send Personal Messages’, to mirror the current language. I don’t think they’re referred to as Direct Messages in the settings anywhere, so that change would have to be done at source. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I thought Direct message was the official name for the “Private messages”, but they seem to be called personal messages. Is that a recent change? :thinking:


edit: oh, maybe it’s because it’s called “message direct” in French. :thinking:

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@JammyDodger this is incredible work. I’ll add this to the post soon!

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*cough* RFE: dark/light mode options for custom emoji

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Anyway, this is amazing. Thank you @JammyDodger!

Oh! I do have one suggestion. Some of these things are changeable via settings in the admin interface. Might be nice to have those things indicated differently in the chart? That would make it easier for those of us who might have [1] changed some of those to make our own site-specific version.


  1. and by “might have”, I mean “definitely have” ↩︎

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I tried to be super-swish and add a placeholder to add a domain and turn all the names into site-specific admin settings links, but it did not seem to like that. :slightly_smiling_face: The perfect one would be dynamic to your own current settings, but unfortunately I do not know how to do that either… (open to suggestions :+1:)

But I think the gear icon could be given a column to show which are configurable. I’ll give it a whirl. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’ve done an excerpt as a tester. How do people feel about something like this?

Draft Grid

:warning: Under construction!

Trust Level Grid - Defaults

TL = Trust Level dependant | :gear: = Enabled by admin setting

:gear: Post Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[1] Post Replies 10 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[2] Post Topics 3 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Reply as Linked Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[3] Email-in New Topics :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[4] Access Shared Drafts :gear: :white_check_mark:
[5] Post Images 1 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[6] Post Hyperlinks 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[7] Mention users in a post 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[8] Use @here Mention :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[9] Post Attachments :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[10] Create Polls :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Close Any Poll :white_check_mark:
[11] Edit Post Time 24
hrs
24
hrs
30
days
30
days
no
limit
TL no
limit
[12] Edit Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[13] Make their own posts into Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[14] Edit all Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[15] Delete Own Posts (not Topics, unless there are no replies) :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Other User’s Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
View Deleted Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[16] Anonymous Posting :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Rebuild HTML :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Notice :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Colour :white_check_mark:
Lock Post :white_check_mark:

  1. max_replies_in_first_day
    newuser_max_replies_per_topic ↩︎

  2. max_topics_in_first_day
    min_trust_to_create_topic ↩︎

  3. email_in
    email_in_min_trust ↩︎

  4. shared_drafts_category ↩︎

  5. newuser_max_embedded_media ↩︎

  6. newuser_max_links ↩︎

  7. enable_mentions
    newuser_max_mentions_per_post
    max_mentions_per_post ↩︎

  8. min_trust_level_for_here_mention ↩︎

  9. new_user_max_attachments ↩︎

  10. poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create ↩︎

  11. min_trust_to_edit_post
    post_edit_time_limit
    tl2_post_edit_time_limit ↩︎

  12. min_trust_to_edit_wiki ↩︎

  13. min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki ↩︎

  14. trusted_users_can_edit_others (?) ↩︎

  15. max_post_deletions_per_day ↩︎

  16. allow_anonymous_posting ↩︎

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Yeah, that works. Clever use of footnotes!

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Excellent. :slight_smile: I shall work through and add the rest. :+1:

I think we’ll need a pared-down version for the blog, with maybe no settings, cat mod, or mod comparison, to allow people to focus on the 5 main user trust levels, and then have a more detailed one as a #howto:faq here on Meta.

I’ll also take the chance to float the idea of a Cut-Out-And-Keep one that you can copy and paste into a Staff topic on your own forum. This one has interactive links for the admin settings: :slight_smile:

Draft Grid

:warning: Excerpt - under construction!


## Trust Level Grid - Defaults
TL = Trust Level dependant  | :gear: = Enabled by admin setting

:gear: | [u] Post Actions [/u] | TL0 | TL1 | TL2 | TL3 | TL4 | Category<br>Moderator | Moderator
:-:|-|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| :-: | :-:
[^1] | Post Replies | 10 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  |:white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^2] | Post Topics | 3 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Reply as Linked Topic | | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^3] | Email-in New Topics <sup> :gear:  | |   | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^4] | Access Shared Drafts | | | | | | | :white_check_mark: 
 [^5] | Post Images | 1 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^6] | Post Hyperlinks | 2 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^7] | Mention users in a post | 2 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^8] | Use @here Mention | |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
  [^9] | Post Attachments |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark:
 [^10] | Create Polls | | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Close Any Poll | | |||  | | :white_check_mark:  | 
 [^11] |Edit Post Time | 24<br>hrs | 24<br>hrs | 30<br>days | 30<br>days | no<br>limit | TL | no<br>limit
 [^12] |Edit Wikis | | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^13] | Make their own posts into Wikis |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^14] | Edit all Posts |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
 [^15] | Delete Own Posts (not Topics, unless there are no replies) |  :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark:  |  :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Delete Other User's Posts | |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | View Deleted Posts  | | | | | | :white_check_mark: |:white_check_mark: 
 [^16] |Anonymous Posting :gear:  | | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Rebuild HTML | |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Add Staff Notice |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp;  |Add Staff Colour | | | | | | |:white_check_mark: 
&emsp;  | Lock Post  | | | | | | |:white_check_mark: 

[^1]: [max_replies_in_first_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_replies_in_first_day)<br>[newuser_max_replies_per_topic](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_replies_per_topic)
[^2]: [max_topics_in_first_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_topics_in_first_day)<br>[min_trust_to_create_topic](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_topics_in_first_day)
[^3]: [email_in](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=email_in)<br>[email_in_min_trust](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=email_in_min_trust)
[^4]: [shared_drafts_category](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=shared_drafts_category)<br>[shared_drafts_min_trust_level](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=shared_drafts_min_trust_level)
[^5]: [newuser_max_embedded_media](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_embedded_media)
[^6]: [newuser_max_links](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_links)
[^7]: [enable_mentions](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=enable_mentions)<br>[newuser_max_mentions_per_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_mentions_per_post)<br>[max_mentions_per_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_mentions_per_post)
[^8]: [min_trust_level_for_here_mention](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_level_for_here_mention)
[^9]: [new_user_max_attachments](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=new_user_max_attachments)
[^10]: [poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create)
[^11]: [min_trust_to_edit_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_edit_post)<br>[post_edit_time_limit](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=post_edit_time_limit)<br>[tl2_post_edit_time_limit](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=tl2_post_edit_time_limit)
[^12]: [min_trust_to_edit_wiki](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_edit_wiki)
[^13]: [min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki)
[^14]: [trusted_users_can_edit_others](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=trusted_users_can_edit_others)
[^15]: [max_post_deletions_per_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_post_deletions_per_day)
[^16]: [allow_anonymous_posting](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=allow_anonymous_posting)
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