Group owners and members can't see their own group unless "Group is visible to all users"

I’ve just been exploring the new group owners for managing group membership functionality and am loving it! We’re going to really start using this.

One bug we found is that group owners and group members are not even able to see the group unless “Group is visible to all users” setting is ticked. This seems backward to me. I think they should be able to see the group. Members need to see it to participate properly and owners need to see it to be able to manage the group members.

For reference
https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-owners-for-managing-group-membership/36233/10?u=cpradio

ok - happy to have this conversation over there. please close this thread.