For English-speaking people, problems of this kind are not very clear. However, try, for example, to go to a German forum and understand something there without speaking German. Or on the Russian-language forum. To quickly translate from an unfamiliar language, Google Translate is used. And it is completely broken on this forum and many other forums using Discourse.
Discourse pages cannot be translated using Google Translate:
Built-in translator does not work in Google Chrome
- The official Google Translator plugin for Chromium browsers does not work (I checked in Brave/Chrome)
- Translation of the entire page does not work on translate.google.com website
Considering that Chrome / Chromium is the most popular browser, and Google Translate is the most popular machine translator, most of the audience that does not understand the language of the forum is cut off from the forum using Discourse.
Isn’t maybe the problem that you switched Discourse interface into your own langage? In this case, the translation of the whole page doesn’t often work anymore as you have two languages mixed together (and the first one appearing is even already your own). You have to leave the Discourse parameters on the same foreign language as the forum posts, so that everything is in the foreign language on the page. Translation should work from there.
I just checked on a couple of foreign Discourse, and it’s working for me.
Please provide links of the forums you don’t manage to translate if the above doesn’t solve your problem.
No, this is definitely not a language confusion problem. Google translate has long been able to properly separate and translate this.
In my case, I checked it without even logging into the forum. In this case, only 1 language is used in the interface and content. And my interface language here is English.
Surprisingly, when I created this thread, I checked all the translation methods here and on forum.ghost.org. The translation did not work either there or here. Now I have checked forum.ghost.org again and the translation was possible with the help of the official plugin and with the help of the translator built into Chrome. Translation via google.translate.com also does not work. I try this site and the translation works unpredictably (the official plugin translates some pages and some not).
One could blame the problems on unstable work
Google Translator API, but the inability to translate many Discourse sites for a long time suggests otherwise.
An interesting fact, if I am not logged into the forum, then the interface is shown to me in my system language and I cannot change it until I enter the forum under my account. If the problem of mixing languages really exists, then this behavior is also erroneous.
I do believe the mixing languages problem exists (only my own impression). Sometimes, on my end, it even causes to not have the translation available at all (as the browser thinks it’s already in my language). Maybe sometimes (often?) it still works, but I guess sometimes it doesn’t.
I have myself also had some troubles in the past where Chrome says the page can’t be translated when I try the first time. But when I try it again just a few seconds later, it then works. I didn’t pay much attention to it, I got used to the fact I often have to ask a second time for it to work. I don’t think this is related to Discourse in any way. It does it whatever the website (Discourse or not).
I tried these 2 sites from English to French on a French Chrome, and it works exactly like you would expect. No problem. I’m not sure there is any kind of global problem here. Maybe on your browser side or some Google limitations on the IP you’re accessing from or something like that? You should try to test more, I am not witnessing what you describe, personally.
Yes, I will definitely check more points now. I don’t like the unpredictability of Google Translate in Chrome on Discourse sites.
I found a solution to the problem with Chrome’s built-in translator so I removed that from the first post. The problem was on my side in the firewall rule. This greatly confused me with inconsistent manifestations.
There are still problems with the google translate site (I already found questions about this problem here) and problems with the official google translate extension for browsers that do not have a built-in translator. This is less of a problem, but still a problem for me because I am not using Chrome, but using the Brave browser due to security issues.
At the moment, I can say that the official google translate plugin cannot translate this forum, but forum.ghost.org does translate without problems. Perhaps the matter is in what forum settings or styles.
PS I will try to check more sites on Discourse to understand when there is a problem.
Can’t translate with official google translate Chrome extension:
I have not checked the entire list, but it is obvious that only a small part of these forums can be easily translated if the visitor has a Chromium browser installed (for example Brave) with the official google translate plugin. I have no doubt that some of the blame lies with this plugin, but it is absolutely useless to point google about this. A critical issue with the plugin only occurs with the Discourse engine (most Discourse forums, but not all) and discussions.apple.com forums.
Yes, you will need to report that to the plugin.
Until Google answers me, and I think this will never happen, it might be worth looking at why most Discourse sites have this problem and some don’t. After all, if a bug is in the Chrome browser and it only appears on your site, it is silly to hope that it will be fixed in Chrome. It’s the same here. Problem only on most Discourse sites and Apple forums.
Your own research has already disproven this; for some Discourse sites it works, and others it does not. Therefore the problem is not Discourse.
You still have a choice: to help users (these are all visitors to thousands of Discourse forums, not just the local community) who use Chromium for a number of reasons, or leave it as it is (users’ problems are their problems).