It is intentional. Though it’s still experimental, so feedback and ideas are very much welcome. I believe the gist is to allow for more high priority notification types, but have them persistent in the pulldown rather than as an extra count on the avatar.
FWIW, I think this works quite well for the ‘not having got to them yet’ ones (inc. bookmark reminders, etc), but I think I do miss the initial ‘look at me’ coloured ping when they first arrive.
Actually, I didn’t pay attention to whether the count was on the left or right, and I agree that having two separate counters is a bit excessive.
That would be very helpful. Why not just color the counter green if there are PMs? Or if you want the solution to be general enough, maybe give a user an option to choose which type of notifications gets an “important” color.
I’d like to strongly (but respectfully) disagree. My workflow is as follows:
Whenever I receive a PM, I want to answer it ASAP. Because I’m a staff member, a PM usually is either about something urgent or a new member unsure how to do something (the longer they wait, the higher the chance they’ll not visit the site again). So now and then, I open the tab with Discourse and quickly check if I have a green mark. This is much faster than opening the menu, finding the PM icon, and seeing whether there’s something new.
Whenever someone mentions me or replies to my topic, I’ll want to answer it whenever I have the time (the beauty of asynchronous conversation). So when I dedicate time, I open the notification menu and see what’s up, so there’s no need for separate indicators for those notifications.
One could also argue that “well, if you have a notification, then it probably doesn’t hurt to check it,” and I think any long-time discourse user will know that it’s not true because you constantly get likes on old posts.
I think something like this is what we should be considering, but it does lead to few other questions. In that state, should the count refer to the number of PMs? Or the total number of notifications? Wait… should we even have a count in the top-level indicator at all? Maybe we should let the count go and bring back the color.
Aside: there’s a setting to disable notifications for likes or to reduce how frequently you get them. They may not be what you want, but are worth trying out.
I think it’s a good idea. Having counters within the notification menu on each category icon is useful, but the sum of them – I don’t think it tells much. I think it’s similar to how you’d value individual counters/total counter in an email client with multiple accounts.
I am not against to indicate notifications different colors. Just wrote what I think why it works like this.
Actually I like this idea. Chat also works something like this. Only show numbers on high priority notifications. I think if the high priority notifications indicator came back than it would be great to show both type of notifications, kind of layer style? Without number it’ll be fix sized circle no matter how many notifications on it.
Something like this?
High priority goes to first place
My post directly above began as an original post of a new topic because I hadn’t seen this topic. Now I’ve read through it… How about getting rid of the number and having a “pie chart” bubble? – so it’d be one colour, or have blue/green/red slices depending on the nature of the notifications.
Wait, I don’t get the parallel: facebook puts all notifications in one single feed (and I agree it’s noisy), discourse used to be like that, and now it classifies notifications into groups. Why would anyone be annoyed by this change (i’m focusing on only one aspect) from less order to more order?
I’d even claim that it’d be against their business model to do so
I think there’s something similar in Slack which seems to differentiate private messages from messages to the channel by showing a small indicator or an indicator with a number
As a moderator, I get a LOT of notifications. Messages, likes to posts, system notifications, review queue notifications, and my workflow is very much to prioritize certain types of notifications over others. I am the only full-time moderator for our site. That means checking notifications is the last thing I do when I go to bed and the first thing I do when I wake up. Repeatedly over a day, basically, in between every major task I undertake, I am glancing at my notification list, looking for 1) review queue messages and 2) PMs, both of which may indicate urgent issues unfolding.
I understand the idea of using a single notification indicator to indicate you have notifications. If the plan is not to differentiate high- versus low-priority notifications, then I would remove low-priority notifications altogether. That way, if I see a notification indicator, I can still tell, at a glance, that there is something that requires my immediate attention versus a situation that may not.
So I guess my next question is: If there is to be only a single, all-priority notification indicator, can I disable notifications other than PMs and Review queue notifications?