Please update 'Understanding Discourse Trust Levels' — or is there a different doc?

I suggest you replace “private message” by “direct message” and “PM” by “DM”. :slight_smile:

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I’ve gone with updating the ‘Private Messages’ one to ‘Can send Personal Messages’, to mirror the current language. I don’t think they’re referred to as Direct Messages in the settings anywhere, so that change would have to be done at source. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I thought Direct message was the official name for the “Private messages”, but they seem to be called personal messages. Is that a recent change? :thinking:


edit: oh, maybe it’s because it’s called “message direct” in French. :thinking:

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@JammyDodger this is incredible work. I’ll add this to the post soon!

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*cough* RFE: dark/light mode options for custom emoji

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Anyway, this is amazing. Thank you @JammyDodger!

Oh! I do have one suggestion. Some of these things are changeable via settings in the admin interface. Might be nice to have those things indicated differently in the chart? That would make it easier for those of us who might have [1] changed some of those to make our own site-specific version.


  1. and by “might have”, I mean “definitely have” ↩︎

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I tried to be super-swish and add a placeholder to add a domain and turn all the names into site-specific admin settings links, but it did not seem to like that. :slightly_smiling_face: The perfect one would be dynamic to your own current settings, but unfortunately I do not know how to do that either… (open to suggestions :+1:)

But I think the gear icon could be given a column to show which are configurable. I’ll give it a whirl. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’ve done an excerpt as a tester. How do people feel about something like this?

Draft Grid

:warning: Under construction!

Trust Level Grid - Defaults

TL = Trust Level dependant | :gear: = Enabled by admin setting

:gear: Post Actions TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[1] Post Replies 10 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[2] Post Topics 3 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Reply as Linked Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[3] Email-in New Topics :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[4] Access Shared Drafts :gear: :white_check_mark:
[5] Post Images 1 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[6] Post Hyperlinks 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[7] Mention users in a post 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[8] Use @here Mention :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[9] Post Attachments :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[10] Create Polls :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Close Any Poll :white_check_mark:
[11] Edit Post Time 24
hrs
24
hrs
30
days
30
days
no
limit
TL no
limit
[12] Edit Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[13] Make their own posts into Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[14] Edit all Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[15] Delete Own Posts (not Topics, unless there are no replies) :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Other User’s Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
View Deleted Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[16] Anonymous Posting :gear: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Rebuild HTML :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Notice :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Colour :white_check_mark:
Lock Post :white_check_mark:

  1. max_replies_in_first_day
    newuser_max_replies_per_topic ↩︎

  2. max_topics_in_first_day
    min_trust_to_create_topic ↩︎

  3. email_in
    email_in_min_trust ↩︎

  4. shared_drafts_category ↩︎

  5. newuser_max_embedded_media ↩︎

  6. newuser_max_links ↩︎

  7. enable_mentions
    newuser_max_mentions_per_post
    max_mentions_per_post ↩︎

  8. min_trust_level_for_here_mention ↩︎

  9. new_user_max_attachments ↩︎

  10. poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create ↩︎

  11. min_trust_to_edit_post
    post_edit_time_limit
    tl2_post_edit_time_limit ↩︎

  12. min_trust_to_edit_wiki ↩︎

  13. min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki ↩︎

  14. trusted_users_can_edit_others (?) ↩︎

  15. max_post_deletions_per_day ↩︎

  16. allow_anonymous_posting ↩︎

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Yeah, that works. Clever use of footnotes!

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Excellent. :slight_smile: I shall work through and add the rest. :+1:

I think we’ll need a pared-down version for the blog, with maybe no settings, cat mod, or mod comparison, to allow people to focus on the 5 main user trust levels, and then have a more detailed one as a #howto:faq here on Meta.

I’ll also take the chance to float the idea of a Cut-Out-And-Keep one that you can copy and paste into a Staff topic on your own forum. This one has interactive links for the admin settings: :slight_smile:

Draft Grid

:warning: Excerpt - under construction!


## Trust Level Grid - Defaults
TL = Trust Level dependant  | :gear: = Enabled by admin setting

:gear: | [u] Post Actions [/u] | TL0 | TL1 | TL2 | TL3 | TL4 | Category<br>Moderator | Moderator
:-:|-|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| :-: | :-:
[^1] | Post Replies | 10 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  |:white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^2] | Post Topics | 3 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Reply as Linked Topic | | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^3] | Email-in New Topics <sup> :gear:  | |   | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^4] | Access Shared Drafts | | | | | | | :white_check_mark: 
 [^5] | Post Images | 1 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^6] | Post Hyperlinks | 2 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^7] | Mention users in a post | 2 | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^8] | Use @here Mention | |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
  [^9] | Post Attachments |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark:
 [^10] | Create Polls | | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Close Any Poll | | |||  | | :white_check_mark:  | 
 [^11] |Edit Post Time | 24<br>hrs | 24<br>hrs | 30<br>days | 30<br>days | no<br>limit | TL | no<br>limit
 [^12] |Edit Wikis | | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^13] | Make their own posts into Wikis |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
 [^14] | Edit all Posts |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
 [^15] | Delete Own Posts (not Topics, unless there are no replies) |  :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark:  |  :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Delete Other User's Posts | |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | View Deleted Posts  | | | | | | :white_check_mark: |:white_check_mark: 
 [^16] |Anonymous Posting :gear:  | | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Rebuild HTML | |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | TL | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp; | Add Staff Notice |  |  |  |  | :white_check_mark:  | :white_check_mark: | :white_check_mark: 
&emsp;  |Add Staff Colour | | | | | | |:white_check_mark: 
&emsp;  | Lock Post  | | | | | | |:white_check_mark: 

[^1]: [max_replies_in_first_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_replies_in_first_day)<br>[newuser_max_replies_per_topic](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_replies_per_topic)
[^2]: [max_topics_in_first_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_topics_in_first_day)<br>[min_trust_to_create_topic](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_topics_in_first_day)
[^3]: [email_in](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=email_in)<br>[email_in_min_trust](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=email_in_min_trust)
[^4]: [shared_drafts_category](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=shared_drafts_category)<br>[shared_drafts_min_trust_level](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=shared_drafts_min_trust_level)
[^5]: [newuser_max_embedded_media](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_embedded_media)
[^6]: [newuser_max_links](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_links)
[^7]: [enable_mentions](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=enable_mentions)<br>[newuser_max_mentions_per_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=newuser_max_mentions_per_post)<br>[max_mentions_per_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_mentions_per_post)
[^8]: [min_trust_level_for_here_mention](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_level_for_here_mention)
[^9]: [new_user_max_attachments](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=new_user_max_attachments)
[^10]: [poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=poll_minimum_trust_level_to_create)
[^11]: [min_trust_to_edit_post](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_edit_post)<br>[post_edit_time_limit](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=post_edit_time_limit)<br>[tl2_post_edit_time_limit](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=tl2_post_edit_time_limit)
[^12]: [min_trust_to_edit_wiki](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_edit_wiki)
[^13]: [min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=min_trust_to_allow_self_wiki)
[^14]: [trusted_users_can_edit_others](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=trusted_users_can_edit_others)
[^15]: [max_post_deletions_per_day](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=max_post_deletions_per_day)
[^16]: [allow_anonymous_posting](/admin/site_settings/category/all_results?filter=allow_anonymous_posting)
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Here’s the latest draft of what will be the FAQ Version. I think it’s pretty close to the final version, but if anyone can spot any errors or omissions please shout out. :slight_smile: :+1:

Draft Grid

Trust Level Grid - Defaults

TL = Trust Level dependant
:gear: = Can be enabled or adjusted by an admin setting

:gear: TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[1] Post Replies :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[2] Post Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Reply as Linked Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[3] Reply by email :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[4] Email-in New Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[5] Post Attachments :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[6] Post Images 1 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[7] Post Links 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[8] Mention users in a post 2 :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[9] Use @here Mention :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[10] Tag a Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[11] Create Tags :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[12] Create Polls :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Close Any Poll :white_check_mark:
[13] Edit Posts 24
hrs
24
hrs
30
days
30
days
no
limit
TL no
limit
[14] Edit Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[15] Make their own posts into Wikis :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[16] Edit all Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[17] Delete Own Posts (not Topics, unless there are no replies) :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Other User’s Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
View Deleted Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
[18] Anonymous Posting :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[19] Access Shared Drafts :white_check_mark:
[20] See and Use Staff Whispers :white_check_mark:
TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[21] Daily Like Limit/Multiplier 50 50 x1.5 x2 x3 TL No
Limit
[22] Upload Avatar :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[23] Profile Background :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[24] Usercard Background :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Mute other users :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[25] Ignore other users :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[26] View New User Post Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[27] View Returning User Post Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Have actual links in the ‘about me’ field of their profile :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[28] Have all their links followed (automatic nofollow removed) :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[29] Access the Lounge :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[30] Have Shield Icon :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Manage Users
Can view user info
Can update user’s preferences
Can adjust a user’s trust level
:white_check_mark:


TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[31] Flag Posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[32] Can hide TL0 spam posts :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[33] Flags count towards auto-supressing TL0 spammers :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[34] Flagging a post immediately takes effect and hides the target post :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Review Posts and Flags :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Silence or Suspend Users :white_check_mark:
Anonymize or Delete Users :white_check_mark:
TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[35] Can send Personal Messages :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[36] Invite outside users to PMs making a group PM :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[37] Invite people to specific topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[38] Can send personal messages to an email address :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[39] Re-categorize and rename topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: TL/Category :white_check_mark:
Rebuild HTML :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Notice :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Add Staff Colour :white_check_mark:
Lock Post :white_check_mark:
Split and Merge Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Delete Topic :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Pin/Unpin Topic
 Pin Topic
 Pin Topic Globally
 Make Banner
:white_check_mark:



:white_check_mark:

TL

:white_check_mark:


Close Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Archive Topics :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Make Topics Unlisted :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
See Unlisted Topics in Topic List :white_check_mark:
Reset Topic Bump Date :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Set Topic Timer
 Auto-Close Topic
 Auto-Close Topic After Last Post
 Auto-Bump Topic
 Close Temporarily
 Schedule Publishing
 Auto-Delete Topic
 Auto-Delete Replies
:white_check_mark:







TL
TL
TL
TL
TL
TL


:white_check_mark:







Change Timestamp :white_check_mark:
Make Personal Message/Public Topic :white_check_mark:
Moderation History :white_check_mark:
TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
Edit Catgory Descriptions :white_check_mark: :white_check_mark:
Watched Words :white_check_mark:
View Logs
(Staff Actions, Screened Emails, Screened IPs, Screened URLs, Search Logs)
:white_check_mark:
View Dashboard (no upgrade option) :white_check_mark:
[40] Allow moderators to create and manage categories and groups
[41] Allow moderators to change post ownership
[42] Allow moderators to view user emails
Plugins TL0 TL1 TL2 TL3 TL4 Category
Moderator
Moderator
[43] Mark Solutions (discourse-solved) :white_check_mark: TL :white_check_mark:
[44] Vote Limit (discourse-voting) 2 4 6 8 10
[45] Endorsements (discourse-category-experts) 1 1 x2 x2 x3

  1. max replies in first day
    newuser max replies per topic ↩︎

  2. max topics in first day
    min trust to create topic ↩︎

  3. reply by email enabled ↩︎

  4. email in
    email in min trust ↩︎

  5. newuser max attachments ↩︎

  6. newuser max embedded media
    min trust to post embedded media
    review media unless trust level ↩︎

  7. newuser max links
    min trust to post links ↩︎

  8. enable mentions
    newuser max mentions per post
    max mentions per post ↩︎

  9. min trust level for here mention ↩︎

  10. tagging enabled
    min trust level to tag topics ↩︎

  11. min trust to create tag ↩︎

  12. poll minimum trust level to create ↩︎

  13. min trust to edit post
    post edit time limit
    tl2 post edit time limit
    additional edits per day multiplier ↩︎

  14. min trust to edit wiki ↩︎

  15. min trust to allow self wiki ↩︎

  16. trusted users can edit others ↩︎

  17. max post deletions per day
    max post deletions per minute ↩︎

  18. allow anonymous posting ↩︎

  19. shared drafts category
    shared drafts min trust level ↩︎

  20. enable whispers ↩︎

  21. max likes per day
    additonal likes per day multiplier
    staff like weight ↩︎

  22. allow uploaded avatars
    automatically download gravatars ↩︎

  23. min trust level to allow profile background ↩︎

  24. min trust level to allow user card background ↩︎

  25. min trust level to allow ignore ↩︎

  26. new user notice tl ↩︎

  27. returning user notice tl ↩︎

  28. tl3 links no follow ↩︎

  29. /c/lounge/edit/security ↩︎

  30. How to make a staff user more recognizable ↩︎

  31. min trust to flag posts
    allow flagging staff
    additional flags per day multiplier ↩︎

  32. high trust flaggers auto hide posts ↩︎

  33. num users to silence new user
    silence new user sensitivity ↩︎

  34. hide post sensitivity ↩︎

  35. enable personal messages
    min trust to send messages
    max personal messages per day ↩︎

  36. min trust level to allow invite ↩︎

  37. min trust level to allow invite ↩︎

  38. min trust to send email messages ↩︎

  39. trusted users can edit others ↩︎

  40. moderators manage categories and groups ↩︎

  41. moderators change post ownership ↩︎

  42. moderators view emails ↩︎

  43. accept all solutions trust level ↩︎

  44. vote limit ↩︎

  45. max category expert endorsements per day
    additional category expert endorsements per day multiplier ↩︎

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What’s the difference between a cell with :x: and a cell with nothing?

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Nothing. :slight_smile: I think I put the :x: in for emphasis, and to provide a bit of shape to the ‘mini-sections’. Let’s try taking them out and see if it works better/is more consistent.

Edit: Any better?

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I do think that’s slightly better.

And I like this table.

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The table is now added to the blog post! We’re working on fixing the styling, so hang tight on that.

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I love charts like this, and I love this chart! So… well done! :clap:

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Now the TL0-TL4 one is on the blog it’s probably time to calve off the admin setting one into its own faq. I shall go and do that now. :+1: (I’ll also tuck the draft grids in this topic into details sections so as to not be too confusing for anyone reading this later)

And the topic is now here: Trust Level Permissions Table (inc Moderator Roles)

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I think now there is no need for the link to the other table, which is shown in the topic of the blogpost before you press show full post, anymore.

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I made a change here – the table in the post was a bit… clunky (especially on mobile). Instead, I’ve linked to the topic @JammyDodger created. That will be the source of truth for up to date/accurate permissions listing for TLs.

Thanks all for bringing this up!

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