Beitragsbenachrichtigungen für Erst- und Wiederkehrende Nutzer

Um die Freundlichkeit gegenüber Nutzern zu fördern, die zum ersten Mal posten oder seit einiger Zeit nicht mehr aktiv waren, haben wir eine neue Funktion erstellt, die diese neuen/wiederkehrenden Nutzer besonders hervorhebt.

Diese Banner sind für andere Nutzer sichtbar, jedoch nicht für den Poster, auf den sie sich anwenden… und standardmäßig nur für Community-Mitglieder sichtbar, die aktiv genug waren, um das Vertrauensniveau 2 zu erreichen.

So sehen sie aus:

Wie kann ich diese Funktion konfigurieren?

Administratoren können diese Optionen in ihren Site-Einstellungen anpassen.

  • new user notice tl Steuert das Vertrauensniveau, ab dem Nutzer den Hinweis für neue Nutzer sehen können. Standardmäßig ist dies TL2.
  • returning user notice tl Steuert das Vertrauensniveau, ab dem Nutzer den Hinweis für wiederkehrende Nutzer sehen können. Standardmäßig ist dies TL2.
  • returning users days Steuert, ab wann ein Nutzer als wiederkehrender Nutzer gilt. Standardmäßig sind dies 120 Tage.
  • old post notice days Steuert, wann wir die Hintergrundfarbe entfernen und den Hinweis abschwächen. Standardmäßig sind dies 14 Tage.

Wenn Sie den Text dieser Hinweise ändern möchten, können Sie dies unter Admin > Erscheinungsbild > Seitentext tun (Suchen Sie nach post.notice).

Wie deaktiviere ich diese Funktion?

Es gibt zwei Möglichkeiten:

  • Für Nicht-Mitarbeiter und Nicht-TL4-Nutzer deaktivieren: Erhöhen Sie new user notice tl und/oder returning user notice tl auf Vertrauensniveau 4. TL4 wird nur manuell vergeben, sodass nur Ihre Mitarbeiter und Nutzer mit dem höchsten Vertrauensniveau die Hinweise sehen würden.

  • Banner global deaktivieren: Fügen Sie CSS hinzu, um diese Banner unter Admin > Erscheinungsbild > Themen global auszublenden.

Dieses CSS blendet beide Typen aus:

.post-notice {
  display: none;
}

Alternativ können Sie einzelne Arten von Hinweisen ausblenden:

.post-notice.new-user {
  display: none;
}

.post-notice.returning-user {
  display: none;
}

.post-notice.old {
  display: none;
}
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These notices are awesome, thank you!

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This is a great feature, but it’d be even better if we could not have these notices show up on certain topics. We have an introduce yourself topic and the first time poster notice adds a lot of noise.

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You can hide them using the topic id :wink:

[data-topic-id="1234"] .post-notice {
  display: none;
}
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How about hiding on topics with specific tag?

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I don’t think that’s possible right now.

@maja, do you think you can do your :sparkles: and add one class per tag in the topic view (everywhere we show the category-* class if that’s easy enough)?

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This is :sparkles:fantastic!:sparkles: After this feature was implemented, it sure did encourage our members to start welcoming new users! This helps our new users be encouraged to keep chatting! I’ve probably seen no new users not being welcomed, which is great! Great job Team Discourse!

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Some amazing results as well. Here’s a returning user from 2013 :exploding_head:

Also definitely interesting when someone’s returning post is a PM as well.

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Via css, it’s easy to hide the notice. If we use @awesomerobot guide in the first post and add the class .private_message, it should work.

I didn’t try it, but there’s no reason not to

.private_message .post-notice {
  display: none;
}
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Just a heads up: some languages (e.g. romanian) doesn’t have a generic pronoun (like their), therefore you’re stuck with using a translation of either he or she.

Maybe this functionality need to be disabled by default on non-english forums?

Probably better to look at a different line than to disable a feature entirely.

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Some would argue that English doesn’t either. The other solution is to use something like “he or she”.

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We don’t capture gender to determine that. Talking to a Romanian colleague though, they insisted there were ways around this.

I think at this point most people making that argument in regard to English are doing so in bad faith.

This is a problem that has been discussed a bit more in other topics, including Gender and translations — Is it correct to say that Slavic languages fall into similar issues as other languages discussed where gender is often built-in to the language?

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I’m on your side. I’m not convinced that it’s bad faith, though.

Admittedly, I am an Old White Guy, but I’m pretty far ahead of lots of Old White Guys on such issues. It wasn’t that long ago that I assiduously he/shed and/or (s)hed my way through a bunch of academic writing and the singular they wasn’t in the stuff I was reading a mere ten years ago, even by feminists who wouldn’t capitalize their names.

While those other Old White Guys are wrong, I’m not convinced that it’s bad faith. Oh, but you said most. So you’re right. :wink:

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Oh absolutely, I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t. I was trying to express that it’s a solved issue not really worth discussing with English, but there are a bunch of complexities with other languages where nouns and verb tenses carry gender so swapping in a single word isn’t always possible.

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In many languages, gender isn’t so tightly linked to sex as it is in English. In French, for example, if you refer to a man as “une personne,” you use the feminine gender as long as “personne” is the focus. To return to referring to him as “il,” you have to use some masculine noun. It is not the person’s sex that determines, but the word’s gender. As Saki puts in the mouth of one of his characters, “French is a most dreadfully unsexing language!”

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Indeed, slavic languagages have that (and many other problems) as well.
Also, In Czech we have 7 declension types which makes software translations (with variables in particular) challenging, to say the least.

Romans with their five declensions had it much easier:

(sorry for off-topic)

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There is no generic pronoun in Romanian and I believe no other Romanic languages have it either. :frowning:

The good part is that the messages can be somewhat rephrased to not include the gender:

E prima oara cand %{user} a postat. Bine a venit!

* It’s first time %{user} has posted. Welcome!

A trecut ceva timp de cand %{user} a fost activ - ultimul mesaj trimis a fost pe %{date}.

* It’s been a while since %{user} was active - last message was sent on %{date}.

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I would agree if the notice is also posted if the same user who just posted a PM then also post in the public forum. Is this the case?