Nascondere temporaneamente il post / contrassegnare come meno importante?

Yes, Discourse does via the Summarize button.

I was just hoping to have a more manual system that hints to the summarizer to do the right thing.

The goal here is the same as the summarize button. If you come to a long topic for the first time, and just want a quick glance, the important posts are there and easy to see. If you want to get involved, expand and read all.

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The closest thing we have is giving lots more weight to staff likes when it comes to summarise. I guess we could have a mode where a staff like is infinite weight

The op feels like it is asking for a mode where there is auto manual summarise

I still don’t get the reluctance around splitting off stuff or deleting

This topic is huge, friendly, full of advice and information, all centered around photos of people’s audio setups:

It’d be nice if the “advice” and discussion around each could be deprioritized and only the “show off your setup” posts be in the summary for new users. Deleting is a bad idea, and splitting off the discussion for ‘what’s that thing?’ ‘oh thats a X’ is silly unless you also split off the photo, which is not ideal.

Here’s a topic where we solicited ideas. Ideally, in this topic, the summary would include only ideas and not the discussion around the ideas. Duplicate ideas are posted on this topic because it is impossible to filter the ideas from the discussion. We have manually processed this topic many times to gather feedback, it’s unfortunate that our users can not also benefit from that work.

I guess we disagree; splitting is really the way to go, particularly if useful info is buried in a topic.

Another example…

  1. people talking about asking for a feature (support for Amazon Music) across many topics, but being combined into this single topic.
  2. then lots of +1s, then some useful advice on how to get Amazon to do something about it
  3. then a few messages from the company marked with staff coloring to get it to stick out as “important” 4) then a lot of feedback on how feedback is being responded to
  4. questions about techniques for contacting amazon effectively
  5. responses and discussion about the effectiveness on those techniques.

Nothing there deserves to be deleted, and splitting the topic doesnt help. Summarize helps filter out the +1’s, but doesn’t do enough.

This topic is super hot right now for us. Our moderators would manually prune this daily with the current “hot” points until the topic dies down.

it almost works, but not quite… i’d want the current post to be auto-summarized for new viewers.

help me understand… why would I want historical context to disappear? we tend to only delete when the posts are bad, not when they are just noisey.

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So then do the pruning after that burst of activity is completed. If you have an attitude that “every post is sacred and cannot be touched” then there’s really nowhere to go here. You have to take the attitude that preserving the expressed intent is what matters, which can be resolved by combining the same feedback into one post (rather than 10+) to reduce needless repetition, editing the first post to include the information, and so on.

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Instead, add moderator notice, please like the OP if you would like the feature, further +1s will be deleted

@dannydulai I’m a little lost here, following this conversation. You first talked of something “manual”. Sam’s proposition would IMO perfectly respond to that request by summarizing according to moderator’s likes. Then you’re talking of something automatic ? Which one is it that you want ? Or what I am missing here ?

I made an English error by using the word summarize to mean 2 different things.

I want manual “hiding” as I originally stated. Sam’s proposal was to give me a manual way to add “infinite weight” to the auto-summarize algorithm. That doesn’t give me hiding. It gives me “a strong hint to the auto-summarize algorithm to hide the post when you click [Summarize Topic]”. The topic still needs to be manually “summarized” by new users clicking [Summarize Topic]. Try it – if you click [Summarize Topic] and revisit, the topic will be “unsummarized”. So if the “manual infinite weight method” is added to Discourse, I’d need a way to mark the topic to automatically show up as “summarized” to meet my needs.

I hope that answers what I failed to convey, and that you missed that [Summarize Topic] is not automatically turned on for new visits.

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Understood. You want “hidden” by default with the option to expand. Not the opposite. So Sam’s proposition would need to come along with a way for staff to select topics or tags to be summarized by default.

Ciao,

il nostro forum ha attualmente 6.000 post al mese, in rapida crescita. Discourse è davvero ottimo per gestirlo :slight_smile:

Vorrei davvero avere la possibilità di nascondere i post in due modi:

  • nascondere come ora (una sorta di eliminazione dei post che violano le regole del forum: i moderatori nascondono, solo i moderatori possono vedere i post)
    E, inoltre:
  • nascondere i post meno utili (davvero solo nascondere - solo i moderatori possono nasconderli, ogni utente può aprirli, se interessato).

L’“eliminazione” dei post è indispensabile per motivi legali. Attualmente utilizziamo la modalità di nascondimento per questo, poiché solo gli utenti con un livello di fiducia molto elevato sono autorizzati a vederli.
La possibilità aggiuntiva di “nascondere in modo morbido” i post sarebbe molto utile per mantenere le discussioni “leggibili”, per mantenerle vicine all’argomento senza rendere i post invisibili agli utenti.

Penso che questa combinazione sarebbe molto utile per rendere i forum più utili per gli utenti, poiché evita che i lettori si astengano dal leggere una discussione semplicemente a causa della sua lunghezza eccessiva, causata da post fuori tema.

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In passato utilizzavamo questo plugin per nascondere contenuti che ritenevamo privi di valore; sfortunatamente, il plugin è attualmente in uno stato non funzionante e non abbiamo nessuno che possa risolverlo.

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Nello spirito dell’idea di community di Discourse, potrebbe anche essere un’idea lasciare che i lettori valutino i post come utili o meno utili (in tema o fuori tema) - di nuovo, separatamente dalle precedenti opzioni di approvazione (cuori) che sono indispensabili. Con un po’ di logica dietro, la folla potrebbe decidere quali post rimangono leggibili e quali vengono collassati.
Nei forum come il nostro, dove i thread possono facilmente avere più di cento post e le discussioni possono essere a volte orientate ai fatti e a volte personali, qualcosa del genere sarebbe una benedizione per mantenere i thread leggibili senza eliminare i post un po’ fuori tema.

Ciao @Linca,

C’è qualche speranza che il tuo strumento funzioni di nuovo?
Sarei molto interessato.

Cordiali saluti

UlBre

mi piacerebbe dare all’amministratore la possibilità di nascondere/rimuovere dalla lista alcuni post…
spero che questo possa essere preso in considerazione… grazie…

L’ho riscritto di recente e l’ho rilasciato come plugin. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Sta espandendo troppo ora :joy: perché quella funzionalità sarebbe quasi perfetta se quei contenuti zero fossero nascosti in modo che l’IA non possa vederli. A RAG piacerebbe molto.