I’m having a problem that a Topic starts up with a good Post, but then devolves quickly into useless me too Posts, and no policy seems to fix this behavior. Then, someone actually responds with a great Post, followed by a bunch of other me toos and uselessness. Then another great Post. The thread becomes 100+ posts long, but only posts 1, 15, and 62 are worth reading.
What I’m thinking of as a solution, is a plugin or something that let’s moderators mark posts as ‘hidden’, and so when a user views the thread, those posts are collapsed. However, anyone can click on them to open them, and you can click to open them all. I don’t want the less important posts to be deleted or unviewable, but I don’t want them in the Topic browser’s face.
Is this possible now in Discourse or via an existing plugin? Do you have any suggestions other than mine to solve this problem of the long Topic with mostly useless Posts?
This is already possible via the “Summarize Topic” button at the top of the topic. This will only appear on topics longer than {x} posts where {x} defaults to 50 out of the box, but can be adjusted via site setting.
When a topic is too long to read, and you want the TL;DR version. Try that first.
I looked into “Summarize Topic”, and although it was a good effort, it relies on Likes and maybe some other automated things. This doesn’t really get the summary right because many of the “me toos” are liked. I really want a human moderator to pick.
Is it realistic to expect a human moderator is going to go through every single topic and manually mark “just the good posts”?
If this kind of radical moderation is needed, I suggest deleting all the meaningless “me too” posts, which will be suppressed (soft-deleted) for all non-staff users visiting the topic. Then post a staff reply that says “hey, any me-too replies will be deleted, please only reply with {rules}”
I would also appreciate manual hiding of posts as a feature. In my case, it’s to hide my own off-topic moderator posts and replies to it.
More concretely, we repeatedly have people post logfile content as plain text rather than preformatted/fenced code blocks and I keep fixing that and posting a public reply with an explanation. We are also trying to establish a culture of liking posts (no idea why people are ignoring the button) so I’m also posting public hints on that.
A lot of the time, that will be a single off-topic post and that’s okay, but sometimes people reply to my post and then I might reply again so that there is a longer sequence of OT posts and it is those that I would like to hide.
Would this be different from the “transparent deletion” system you suggested here? It sounds to me like it solves a similar problem (which I completely agree needs solving!).
I wish to second this so much. I too have the need to hide some posts in a topic.
In my case we don’t have that many posts, but some of them are not contributing much value, but too much to justify deleting them.
We already have a summary post at the very top, so that doesn’t solve the problem. We just simply want to make posts that aren’t contributing as much value as the other ones less apparent, but still viewable.
It would be perfectly fine if such posts were collapsed and there was a grey text saying “Click to show this post” or whatever, the important thing is that they don’t show by default and that users see that they’re posts that exist but aren’t shown fully, and that they can click on the post or similar to show it.
I searched the forum here but can’t find anything like this. Is there anything that can do this yet?
I think it is fine if you announce intention to “clean up”, explain why the topic is being pruned, and indicate it’s specific to certain topics like that one.
Guys, this is not about an inability to clean up threads. I have personally already deleted and split/moved numerous posts in the threads I’m considering when supporting the request we’re discussing here.
In fact, that’s exactly the type of maintenance I was doing when I noticed I had gotten a reply in this topic.
Deleting posts is not the proper thing to do here, at least not in my use case. If it was, I would have done it already.
Ho un forum dedicato a un gruppo di creditori che cercano di organizzare un’azione legale. Una funzionalità critica che manca è la possibilità di nascondere i post e di stratificare le informazioni.
Gli argomenti riguardano la risoluzione di problemi. Alcuni post sono altamente rilevanti e importanti per una comprensione di alto livello, altri meno. Tuttavia, i post meno rilevanti non sono inutili. Spesso aggiungono sfumature a un argomento o costituiscono la registrazione dell’opinione di un attore chiave (accordo/dissenso). È fondamentale poter visualizzare queste discussioni in modo gerarchico.
Come altri hanno già sottolineato, la popolarità non equivale all’importanza. Anche quando esiste una correlazione, la popolarità è spesso influenzata da fattori personali casuali piuttosto che dal contenuto informativo. La funzione di riassunto dei post fallisce ripetutamente; fallisce così spesso che non vale nemmeno la pena suggerirla agli utenti, poiché genera thread confusi.
Trasformare argomenti rumorosi e disordinati in argomenti di riferimento più organizzati permette a forum molto attivi di convertire rapidamente gli argomenti in pagine wiki. Consentire ai moderatori di contrassegnare i post come nascosti o meno importanti renderebbe questo possibile, aumentando notevolmente il valore del vostro prodotto.
Se non desiderate permettere nei forum Discourse la possibilità di nascondere i post o di assegnare loro un livello di importanza variabile, allora consentite ai moderatori di creare ‘viste’ curate degli argomenti, con link accessibili nella parte superiore dell’argomento e in altre aree pertinenti dell’interfaccia.
IMHO, trovo che l’opzione di poter comprimere manualmente i post (qualunque sia il motivo o la motivazione) sia una buona idea. Non si potrebbe realizzare tramite un plugin? Se persone interessate contribuiscono con qualche euro e chiedono lo sviluppo di un plugin con questa funzione, renderebbe tutti felici. Un tale plugin sarebbe complicato? (non sembra troppo, ma forse mi sbaglio su questo).
Allora, francamente, penso che dovresti scegliere un software diverso da Discourse. Non sono sicuro che alcun software per forum faccia ciò che descrivi. Puoi indicare esempi reali di questo su Internet?
Purtroppo no. Inoltre, nonostante la mia temporanea frustrazione quando so che una determinata funzione renderebbe la mia vita molto più facile, non considererei l’idea di abbandonare Discourse a meno che non esistesse una piattaforma per forum chiaramente superiore (cosa che ritengo improbabile). Discourse fa molte cose davvero bene ed è un prodotto eccellente.
button) so I’m also posting public hints on that.
symbol and select “hide details”.