I’m having a problem that a Topic starts up with a good Post, but then devolves quickly into useless me too Posts, and no policy seems to fix this behavior. Then, someone actually responds with a great Post, followed by a bunch of other me toos and uselessness. Then another great Post. The thread becomes 100+ posts long, but only posts 1, 15, and 62 are worth reading.
What I’m thinking of as a solution, is a plugin or something that let’s moderators mark posts as ‘hidden’, and so when a user views the thread, those posts are collapsed. However, anyone can click on them to open them, and you can click to open them all. I don’t want the less important posts to be deleted or unviewable, but I don’t want them in the Topic browser’s face.
Is this possible now in Discourse or via an existing plugin? Do you have any suggestions other than mine to solve this problem of the long Topic with mostly useless Posts?
This is already possible via the “Summarize Topic” button at the top of the topic. This will only appear on topics longer than {x} posts where {x} defaults to 50 out of the box, but can be adjusted via site setting.
When a topic is too long to read, and you want the TL;DR version. Try that first.
I looked into “Summarize Topic”, and although it was a good effort, it relies on Likes and maybe some other automated things. This doesn’t really get the summary right because many of the “me toos” are liked. I really want a human moderator to pick.
Is it realistic to expect a human moderator is going to go through every single topic and manually mark “just the good posts”?
If this kind of radical moderation is needed, I suggest deleting all the meaningless “me too” posts, which will be suppressed (soft-deleted) for all non-staff users visiting the topic. Then post a staff reply that says “hey, any me-too replies will be deleted, please only reply with {rules}”
I would also appreciate manual hiding of posts as a feature. In my case, it’s to hide my own off-topic moderator posts and replies to it.
More concretely, we repeatedly have people post logfile content as plain text rather than preformatted/fenced code blocks and I keep fixing that and posting a public reply with an explanation. We are also trying to establish a culture of liking posts (no idea why people are ignoring the button) so I’m also posting public hints on that.
A lot of the time, that will be a single off-topic post and that’s okay, but sometimes people reply to my post and then I might reply again so that there is a longer sequence of OT posts and it is those that I would like to hide.
Would this be different from the “transparent deletion” system you suggested here? It sounds to me like it solves a similar problem (which I completely agree needs solving!).
I wish to second this so much. I too have the need to hide some posts in a topic.
In my case we don’t have that many posts, but some of them are not contributing much value, but too much to justify deleting them.
We already have a summary post at the very top, so that doesn’t solve the problem. We just simply want to make posts that aren’t contributing as much value as the other ones less apparent, but still viewable.
It would be perfectly fine if such posts were collapsed and there was a grey text saying “Click to show this post” or whatever, the important thing is that they don’t show by default and that users see that they’re posts that exist but aren’t shown fully, and that they can click on the post or similar to show it.
I searched the forum here but can’t find anything like this. Is there anything that can do this yet?
I think it is fine if you announce intention to “clean up”, explain why the topic is being pruned, and indicate it’s specific to certain topics like that one.
Guys, this is not about an inability to clean up threads. I have personally already deleted and split/moved numerous posts in the threads I’m considering when supporting the request we’re discussing here.
In fact, that’s exactly the type of maintenance I was doing when I noticed I had gotten a reply in this topic.
Deleting posts is not the proper thing to do here, at least not in my use case. If it was, I would have done it already.
Je possède un forum dédié à un groupe de créanciers tentant d’organiser une action en justice. La fonctionnalité des messages « cachés » et du superposition de l’information est cruciale et fait actuellement défaut.
Les sujets portent sur la résolution de problèmes. Certains messages sont hautement pertinents et essentiels à une compréhension de haut niveau, tandis que d’autres ne le sont pas. Les messages moins pertinents ne sont pas pour autant inutiles. Ils apportent souvent des nuances à un argument. Parfois, ils constituent un enregistrement de l’opinion d’un acteur clé (accord/désaccord). Il est impératif de pouvoir consulter ces discussions de manière hiérarchisée.
Comme d’autres l’ont souligné, la popularité ne signifie pas l’importance. Même s’il existe une corrélation, la popularité est souvent confondue avec des facteurs aléatoires liés à la personnalité plutôt qu’à l’information. La fonction de résumé des messages échoue lamentablement, encore et encore. Elle échoue si souvent qu’il n’est même pas utile de conseiller aux utilisateurs de l’utiliser, car elle génère des fils de discussion extrêmement confus.
Transformer des sujets bruyants et désorganisés en sujets de référence plus structurés permet aux forums actifs de convertir des sujets en pages wiki extrêmement rapidement. Permettre aux modérateurs de marquer des messages comme cachés ou moins importants rendrait cela possible. Cela augmenterait considérablement la valeur de votre produit.
Si vous ne souhaitez pas permettre le marquage de messages cachés ou à importance variable dans Discourse, permettez alors aux modérateurs de créer des « vues » curatées des sujets, dont les liens seraient accessibles en haut du sujet et dans d’autres zones appropriées de l’interface.
À mon humble avis, je trouve que l’option permettant de replier manuellement les messages (quelle que soit la raison ou la logique derrière) est une bonne idée. Ne pourrait-on pas réaliser cela via un plugin ? Si des personnes intéressées contribuaient financièrement et demandaient le développement d’un plugin avec cette fonction, cela satisferait tout le monde. Un tel plugin serait-il compliqué ? (cela ne semble pas trop, mais peut-être que je me trompe).
Alors, franchement, je pense que vous devriez choisir un autre logiciel que Discourse. Je ne suis pas sûr qu’aucun logiciel de forum ne fasse ce que vous décrivez. Pouvez-vous citer des exemples concrets de cela sur Internet ?
Malheureusement, non. De plus, malgré ma frustration temporaire lorsque je sais qu’une fonctionnalité particulière rendrait ma vie beaucoup plus facile, je ne envisagerais pas de quitter Discourse à moins qu’il n’existe une plateforme de forum manifestement supérieure (ce que je juge peu probable). Discourse fait beaucoup de choses vraiment bien et est un excellent produit.
button) so I’m also posting public hints on that.
symbol and select “hide details”.